• Quacksalber
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    1 year ago

    So what you are saying is that not only was the leader not an FBI employee, but a rat, but also that he was an unwilling rat at that. You just defeated your own argument.

    • underisk@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      What argument do you think I’m making?

      He was working toward the goals the FBI directed him to because the alternative was jail time. I don’t really care about wether he was on the payroll or not.

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        1 year ago

        He was an informant because the FBI forced him to

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          1 year ago

          That’s a funny way of saying he chose to relay info instead of going to jail. The fbi didn’t force him to do anything. They gave him a choice.

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          1 year ago

          Yes! We agree on this. It’s not some crazy conspiracy that a leader of the proud boys was working with the FBI, whether by choice or not isn’t really important.

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            1 year ago

            The issue is that you want to insinuate, that Jan 6th was in a not insignificant way influenced by the FBI, when all that was really said was, that the leader was forced to snitch on his own people.

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              1 year ago

              I actually kind of doubt he was forced at all. These guys love cops and I could easily see them informing just because they believe the cops are on their side.

              Im not insinuating they influenced it at all. I won’t say it’s out of the realm of possibility, but ultimately what does it matter if their highly placed informant didn’t give them enough warning to get ahead of Jan 6th? They may or may not have encouraged it but I doubt they were unaware. Was their inaction incompetence or were they complicit?