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    It’s entirely possible you’ll be an olympic figure skater in your 20s too.

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      -279 months ago

      For sure, but that would take an unreasonable amount of work and effort so I wouldn’t compare the two.

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        but that would take an unreasonable amount of work and effort

        and your hesitation in comparison because of said difficulty is precisely the reason i did.

        I feel like maybe there’s a language barrier or you hate the joke, dunno. The comic works because buying a house is harder than in the past and trying to convince some people of that is often impossible. Rather than understand, some people seem almost like they would rather not understand.

        If you keep looking, you might find one of those folks yourself

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          The comic works because buying a house is harder than in the past and trying to convince some people of that is often impossible.

          I never argued it’s as easy as it used to be. I mean, I didn’t buy a house when I was a baby, but my parents did (when I was a baby, not them) and they didn’t have any issues afaik. I surely had to work way harder than they ever did for a home that was arguably worse in quality and I never said otherwise.

          The comic to me seems to imply the idea that to buy a home you’d have to do something ridiculous and unreasonable (such as letting your dad die earlier), which isn’t the case. It is more ridiculous and less reasonable than it used to be, I’m not arguing that at all.

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              -139 months ago

              Are you somehow magically bound to the place you live right now? My point never was that you could work at walmart for a year slipping tips down your sock until you can reach the downpayment for your malibu villa, if you don’t mind me exaggerating.

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                Not magically. Financially, socially, practically. Moving is expensive, viable places to live may shred your social connections, assuming your profession exists where you want to go.

                Don’t pretend moving is easy on any level. No, you didn’t explicitly say that it was, but you implied it. Hiding behind semantics like you’re doing is very bad faith.

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                  Just FYI I’m not the smart-ass type a poster with whom you have to write those disclaimers at the end for, though I can relate to the need to do so lol. If I have misread something - which I’ve done - I’ve noted it.

                  Moving isn’t “easy” per se, but it was far from impossible. There are always folk to make friends with, even if you move to the county some other commenter said had “4/5ths of the population afraid of the gays taking their guns”, which I found funny, it leaves with 1/5th of the people who seem nice enough to talk to. I do admit here that I come from a country where a call to someone per year is considered high social activity. Financially, it paled in comparison to the house itself and for all I know could be lumped as an insignificant factor to the cost of the house. Unless you get a friend with a van and some elbow grease which cuts costs substantially. Now the practicality-problems I do admit wholeheartedly I fucking hate packing and unpacking, but you have to do that regardless of how far you’re moving.

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                    You’re partially correct. There are plenty of people for whom it is difficult but not impossible. The finances often seem more insurmountable than they are (said as someone who’s purchased two houses before I was 30. I’m very lucky).

                    That said, being poor is expensive (See: Vimes’ Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness). Hard to put up a down payment when you can barely afford to eat, which is a reality for a lot of people. One setback (like your shitty car finally giving up) will lock you in wherever you are more often than not. And even for the more fortunate, things like what you just mentioned become a serious reality. It’s all well and good to point at affordable homes in the country, but that 4/5 of the population you mentioned has a habit also being the kind that “don’t like your kind around here” on the subject of the gays (said as a gay man who grew up in such places). Be happy that you only have such a consideration as an annoyance, not something that could kill you. I am not being hyperbolic.

                    The argument “just move” is often made from a privileged position. Doesn’t make anyone a bad person to not have experienced such hardship, but it does tend to point to a person not realizing the enormity of the task they are glibly asserting as an option. For the people that have, it comes across as arrogant and blind (not necessarily that you are that).