• Bernie Ecclestoned
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      10 months ago

      I said battlefield. Vietnam won the Vietnam War against the US. The goal was to prevent communist takeover. That didn’t happen.

          • @[email protected]
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            310 months ago

            Maybe among Millennials or GenZ, but I can assure you the Cold War was a propagandist wet dream.

        • @[email protected]
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          910 months ago

          I would consider Korea a draw. I wonder how much people conflate the two wars as they had similar objectives in the same world region.

          • FfaerieOxide
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            010 months ago

            “Korea” is still ongoing.

            It didn’t end in draw because that war/“police action” hasn’t ended yet.

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                010 months ago

                So why does The US have a military presence in the south of the country?

                  • FfaerieOxide
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                    010 months ago

                    My logic is fighting on the Korean peninsula stopped with a cease fire, not a peace treaty, but yes, Okinawa and Japan are two countries the USA is currently occupying.

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          910 months ago

          In US schools they teach it as the US just withdrawaling due to cost and domestic pressure because teaching it as a loss would really tarnish the whole “we never lose wars, USA #1!” narrative.

          • @[email protected]
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            810 months ago

            Can confirm this. My teacher started sweating when I asked if that means Vietnam won. Didn’t get an answer just a subject change and the redneck kids in class eyeballing me funny. Sorry fuckos your daddies raged quit the field. That’s a loss. Git gud scrub 😂

          • 1bluepixel
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            210 months ago

            In US schools they teach it as the US just withdrawaling due to cost and domestic pressure

            Also known as “losing.” LOL

            Most modern wars happen like this. Both sides commit until committing becomes untenable for one of the parties. That’s pretty much the only path to victory for Ukraine, for instance.

          • @[email protected]
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            110 months ago

            Technically the domestic/international pressure is the actual reason for the loss. The US had the capability to rule the ashes, but domestic and international pressure caused the withdrawal.

        • @[email protected]
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          010 months ago

          I mean, the US was kicked out, but I don’t know if I’d call what happened to Vietnam “winning” either. It’s more accurate to say they outlasted the Americans.