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      It tastes good and I don’t eat it everyday and I try to eat quality meat as much as possible, give me a break.

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          The device you typed this on surely do not contain any precious metal obtained through human abuse.

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            One form of harm does not excuse the other. We all have to make some effort on multiple fronts if we want the future to be brighter. Besides, it’s easier to survive as a vegetarian than without technology in modern society.

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              Thing is I could make efforts on all fronts except for eating meat every now and then and you guys would still be mad even if I made more effort then you everywhere else.

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                Well hopefully the democratic process can help us find a decent standard. No violence or authoritarianism required.

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                    Man, I eat meat too but you’re so wrong here…

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                    Cooking with meat is horrible, and I know because I am surrounded by them.

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      Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness. Also ideas of freedom. People think doing away with meat would mean more austerity and an attack on their individuality. You could sit someone down, join the dots for them linking meat to environmental catastrophe that affects them and they will still laugh it off with a vapid joke like in the meme.

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        Man, my girlfriend wants to eat meat more often than I do, what does that mean? 🤔

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        Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness.

        That’s an interesting proposition. You have a source for that, or a theory of your own? Please share.

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            I’ve heard about that, but I feel a majority of meat eaters are quite tolerant with veganism and don’t see it a a threat to their masculinity. And I think I can say this threat isn’t even relevant in the case of women meat eaters. About the study you linked: it doesn’t really try to take an objective standpoint on the matter since its entire premise is the necessity to convince meat eaters to change their eating habits. Also is says itself (end of section 5) that the link between eating meat and masculinity wasn’t specifically targeted by the study. The authors do mention though that the link between masculinity and meat eating can be attributed to perceptions created by industry marketing. But in this article (as well as in my own personal experience) this link seems at best anecdotal.

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      Yeah but what about my cat? What about animals in the wild? How can we stop them from eating meat?

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          But what about you?

          “You’re supposed to pretend that you’re something speshul and above those filthy, disgusting and immoral animals!” - vegans.


          EDIT, replying to a comment (from another poster? the same poster?) elsewhere. I think that it was answering this comment, but the thread got deleted so…

          Yeah, not eating animals means we think we’re “above” them because that makes sense.

          Yes, it does. Unless you also expect other omnivorous species and the carnivorous ones to refrain to eat meat… do you? (You don’t.)

          And yes, this makes sense even if it hurts your “precious, oooh so preeecious!” feelings of superiority over other animals.

          Also some other animal killer here in the comments flat out said “humans are above animals, this is fact” but evil vegans think they’re above animals!

          • Whataboutism: “but what about what the other guy said?”, disingenuously shifting the focus from vegans to non-vegans. Also I’m not responsible for someone else’s statements.
          • False dichotomy: implying that a non-vegan putting himself over other animals automatically excludes vegans from doing the same.

          The false dichotomy is so fucking dumb that it makes me think that you’re implictly admitting to not have any actual argument at hand.

          If you want a serious reply then bring up some something not so infested by fallacies as the above, otherwise I’ll just keep laughing at you, “sorry”.

          (Arguably also loaded language but I’ll cut you some slack on that, given that it has some entertainment value.)

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          How is it relevant to the question I’m asking?

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              I agree with you that it’s a personal choice. I was replying to someone who seemed to imply that it wasn’t, and was suggesting that someone who eats meat can just stop doing it. I think that, for some people or some cultures, transitioning to a vegan diet isn’t that easy.

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                Er, sorry but I don’t understand the distinction you seem to be making between a personal choice and something that you can just stop doing.

                Choosing to partake in a culture is still a choice, yeah?

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                  I can think of a few cases where taking part in a culture is not entirely a personal choice. Peer pressure, tradition or religion sometimes deprives one of their freedom to choose.

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                  I never said it because I don’t think it had something to do with the question I was asking. The issue is relevant to me, and you assume too much.

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          It was an honest question, and you didn’t answer it.

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              Why is stupid? Why shouldn’t I be upset that animals are slayed so I can feed my cat? I don’t understand why you are being agressive. I’m asking a question that you might not find relevant but that doesn’t mean it’s not relevant to me. If you don’t think it should be, you could try to explain why rather than insult me.