• mindbleach
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    1 year ago

    Neat.

    A third off the top is still obscene.

    The fact ‘everyone does it’ is worse.

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      1 year ago

      Then developers can release games off steam, and some do.

      But steam has many features people want and use that would add development costs if every dev had to make similar tools in house.

      Think SteamVR, Steam Controller, workshop, community forums, steam achievements, steam overlay, friends, etc …

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        1 year ago

        ‘This thing should be slightly different.’

        ‘Then use something else entirely!’

        Some of y’all really do not know how criticism works.

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          1 year ago

          Lol I see you don’t have an actual response so you move the goal post

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              1 year ago

              Weird because I provided actual services and functionality that steam provides in exchange for that cut, and your response was that me mentioning devs do have other options isn’t “understanding criticism”

              So do you have an actual response or…?

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                1 year ago

                Your response to criticism of Steam was ‘there’s other services.’

                That does absolutely nothing to deflect from criticism of Steam.

                Praising their various features comes a little closer, but still doesn’t justify taking an entire third of every game’s revenue. It takes a whole fucking lot of hypothetical work, which you imagine developers would have to do, to amount to the slice Steam takes right off the top.

                What Valve offers that makes companies put up with that is their de-facto monopoly presence. They can sell many copies through Steam - or they won’t sell many copies.

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                  1 year ago

                  So you didn’t actually read my comment, cool.

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                    1 year ago

                    Then developers can release games off steam, and some do.

                    ‘There’s other services.’

                    But steam has many features people want and use that would add development costs if every dev had to make similar tools in house.

                    ’ It takes a whole fucking lot of hypothetical work, which you imagine developers would have to do, to amount to the slice Steam takes right off the top.’

                    Lie better.