I don’t get this, there’s an effective definition you can use, socialist or marxist-leninist, but you insist on calling them communist which they didn’t even call themselves
North Korea’s giant-air-quotes “democracy” is different from every other actual democracy.
“Communist” government are all the failure modes y’all insist don’t count. Every single one.
You don’t have to stop advocating for the utopian end goal, to acknowledge what’s happened, in practice, in the name of that pursuit. Unless you want to grant to libertarian jerkoffs that without total deregulation for perfectly informed consumers, “capitalism has never been tried.”
That’s because north Korea is a monarchy and not a democracy.
So far pretty much every government calling itself communist has been a dictatorship with state capitalism. None of them have even tried giving power to the workers which is like the core point. Vanguard parties are just a means to power for yourself draped in communist aesthetics. Nazies did that too, doesn’t make them communist.
Libertarian means something else outside the US just FYI. True free market capitalism would exist just long enough for a corporation to seize enough power that it would be the defacto government so in that sense yea, pure capitalism hasn’t been tried and really shouldn’t.
True free market capitalism would exist just long enough for a corporation to seize enough power that it would be the defacto government so in that sense yea, pure capitalism hasn’t been tried and really shouldn’t.
Yeah, if an approach predictably leads to collapse, it doesn’t really matter what the goal is. Whether the goal has “been tried” doesn’t change what would happen if people tried to try.
And I have never wanted to put a dictator in charge who really likes the colour red. What I advocate is worker control over the means of production, think coop businesses.
Had no clue looking at the name of a country or the party in charge was a substitute for politically analyzing a country. Also, that party literally said the Soviet Union hadn’t reached communism which is obvious if you know what communism is supposed to mean.
Which country here was commmnist? The USSR was never able to move beyond state capitalism on the roadmap to communism.
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The part where they were “on the roadmap to communism” is what makes them “a communist country.”
Every country that’s been “on the roadmap to communism” somehow gets stuck at the dictatorship phase.
Maybe having a dictatorship phase is a stupid fucking idea.
“It wasn’t REAL communism!”
I don’t get this, there’s an effective definition you can use, socialist or marxist-leninist, but you insist on calling them communist which they didn’t even call themselves
What political party was in charge of the ussr?
What is the government of North Korea called?
This only works if you have counterexamples.
North Korea’s giant-air-quotes “democracy” is different from every other actual democracy.
“Communist” government are all the failure modes y’all insist don’t count. Every single one.
You don’t have to stop advocating for the utopian end goal, to acknowledge what’s happened, in practice, in the name of that pursuit. Unless you want to grant to libertarian jerkoffs that without total deregulation for perfectly informed consumers, “capitalism has never been tried.”
That’s because north Korea is a monarchy and not a democracy.
So far pretty much every government calling itself communist has been a dictatorship with state capitalism. None of them have even tried giving power to the workers which is like the core point. Vanguard parties are just a means to power for yourself draped in communist aesthetics. Nazies did that too, doesn’t make them communist.
Libertarian means something else outside the US just FYI. True free market capitalism would exist just long enough for a corporation to seize enough power that it would be the defacto government so in that sense yea, pure capitalism hasn’t been tried and really shouldn’t.
Yeah, if an approach predictably leads to collapse, it doesn’t really matter what the goal is. Whether the goal has “been tried” doesn’t change what would happen if people tried to try.
And I have never wanted to put a dictator in charge who really likes the colour red. What I advocate is worker control over the means of production, think coop businesses.
Had no clue looking at the name of a country or the party in charge was a substitute for politically analyzing a country. Also, that party literally said the Soviet Union hadn’t reached communism which is obvious if you know what communism is supposed to mean.