Hungarian scientist Katalin Kariko and U.S. colleague Drew Weissman, who met in line for a photocopier before making mRNA molecule discoveries that paved the way for COVID-19 vaccines, won the 2023 Nobel Prize for Medicine on Monday.
You don’t seem to understand the difference between mRNA vaccines and an immune escape mutation of a virus evading the immune systems response of the hosts.
Also part of why those beneficial mutations occurred is that a large (enough) portion of people weren’t vaccinated. The “potential” hosts, that required adaptation because they’ve seen how the virus looks like through vaccines, create an evolutionary pressure.
Even though this is about bacteria, not viruses and happens inside a petri dish, not in a natural environment, it quite illustratively shows how mutations work. Note, that even though the antibiotics are completely ineffective against the bacteria at the end, this does NOT mean, that it’s useless to begin with. It’s very effective, in fact so much that only small doses suffice to keep the bacteria away. But they mutate randomly yet with a selective (evolutionary) pressure. Maybe you’re too much of a “skeptic” to change your mind. But if you’re truly skeptic, try to be skeptic about your currently held believes too.
The video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8
yea, the original one indeed does not work anymore, they don’t even give it anymore. and the “new” one is based on a strain that is now over a year old. you think that one is going to “work” even better? lol.
thats only true if the pace of vaccine development is fast enough to catch up. there is no evidence that we are fast enough yet. and plenty of evidence that we aren’t.
That’s the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while. What constitutes “fast enough”? Flu shots are given out before flu season and the covid vaccines were dispatched in record time for a novel virus, a monumental achievement. The evidence is that the vaccine saved millions of lives. You’re just an idiot arguing in bad faith, who’s taking embarrassingly long to realise he was incorrect.
The common cold is different every year because it’s still spreading.
The flu is different every year because it’s still spreading.
That’s how diseases work. The examples that aren’t stopped dead… are what’s left. If a resistant strain infects one vaccinated person, well, guess what strain that person’s going to spread.
Fortunately we can adjust boosters for that variant in a hurry, thanks to this Nobel-prize-winning medicine.
it’s so effective, that it doesn’t work anymore.
It’s almost like the virus mutated
Crazy right?
But where could it find a host to mutate in is everyone was vaccinated?!
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You don’t seem to understand the difference between mRNA vaccines and an immune escape mutation of a virus evading the immune systems response of the hosts.
Also part of why those beneficial mutations occurred is that a large (enough) portion of people weren’t vaccinated. The “potential” hosts, that required adaptation because they’ve seen how the virus looks like through vaccines, create an evolutionary pressure.
Even though this is about bacteria, not viruses and happens inside a petri dish, not in a natural environment, it quite illustratively shows how mutations work. Note, that even though the antibiotics are completely ineffective against the bacteria at the end, this does NOT mean, that it’s useless to begin with. It’s very effective, in fact so much that only small doses suffice to keep the bacteria away. But they mutate randomly yet with a selective (evolutionary) pressure. Maybe you’re too much of a “skeptic” to change your mind. But if you’re truly skeptic, try to be skeptic about your currently held believes too. The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8
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ah the classic “if only a few more people got vaccinated early on, we could have prevented the entire thing”…lol. no.
Might want to read on the basics of how vaccines work and maybe the flu vaccines as an example, before saying dumb shit like this.
yea, the original one indeed does not work anymore, they don’t even give it anymore. and the “new” one is based on a strain that is now over a year old. you think that one is going to “work” even better? lol.
They all work against the strain they’re intended for, just like the flu shots. What don’t you understand?
thats only true if the pace of vaccine development is fast enough to catch up. there is no evidence that we are fast enough yet. and plenty of evidence that we aren’t.
That’s the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while. What constitutes “fast enough”? Flu shots are given out before flu season and the covid vaccines were dispatched in record time for a novel virus, a monumental achievement. The evidence is that the vaccine saved millions of lives. You’re just an idiot arguing in bad faith, who’s taking embarrassingly long to realise he was incorrect.
Works fine against what it was designed for.
The common cold is different every year because it’s still spreading.
The flu is different every year because it’s still spreading.
That’s how diseases work. The examples that aren’t stopped dead… are what’s left. If a resistant strain infects one vaccinated person, well, guess what strain that person’s going to spread.
Fortunately we can adjust boosters for that variant in a hurry, thanks to this Nobel-prize-winning medicine.