There’s some fair clause that it is a genocide, though if it is, it goes both ways. That and most of the conditions that Palestine and Gaza put themselves in are from their own mistakes and faults in the past, such as declaring war a few times (and losing all of them), attacking their neighbouring countries and attacking Europe.
Not that this justifies Israel’s violence. They were killing innocent Arabs before Hamas.
Any intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group - in whole or in part - is genocide.
This includes killing people, causing severe bodily or mental harm, preventing births, forcibly transferring children to another group, or deliberately creating conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction.
Doing it counts. Conspiring to do it counts. Publicly inciting it to happen counts. Trying to do it obviously counts. Being complicit in any of that, counts.
This is the fucking UN definition of genocide. I am just barely paraphrasing from the relevant articles of convention. If you care more about tone-policing and gatekeeping than you do about an overt effort to dehumanize and kill a specific group in a specific region for ethnic and religious differences, you can eat shit.
Don’t bother. Mindbleach has been a perpetual spammer who just yells his moronic political stances and then acts like he’s superior by ignoring everything anyone else says.
Hey buddy? They both are. Israel is why Palestine is an open-air prison. Israel is the side that keeps killing those human shields, indiscriminately, without one shred of remorse. Apartments, hospitals, refugee centers, whatever.
Maybe inviting the world’s Jews to “go back to Africa” in the exact goddamn center of the Muslim middle-east was not a sensible idea, in terms of minimizing ethno-religious strife.
No country wanted to kill as many Germans as possible - they wanted the fucking war to end. They wanted to kill Hitler specifically, disrupt the Nazi regime, and go back to merely civilized levels of hating one another. Israel hasn’t fucking done that, with Palestine. Mostly they’ve just continued bombing. They’ve made token efforts to claim they want a rehabilitated Palestinian state… but always alongside collective abuses like the strict blockade that obviously leaves Israel in de-facto control of the region’s survival.
Hey asshole - don’t split hairs about Gaza versus Palestine, then freely swap between Palestine and Hamas!
For the second and final time: saying you’re gonna do it is not the only thing that counts. Israel’s actions constitute genocide. What they say does not matter. The fact Hamas says it out loud neither absolves Israel nor condemns the rest of Palestine.
If Palestine gets their way, they’ll stop being a densely-populated ghetto amid fresh piles of rubble. Israel will stop using the actions of Hamas to justify killing X*10 number of Palestinians. Children and journalists will stop getting shot near the fuckoff enormous wall keeping them pressed against a sea they’re not really allowed to use.
Human shields did not bomb Israel. Declaring “THEY” keep doing it is collective punishment - also a war crime, by the way. All of this is two sides that fucking hate each other and keep doing obscene violence to each other, and your dumb ass wants to pretend it’s just a poor widdle innocent nuclear power being existentially threatened by people without consistent access to food.
Recently had someone argue Palestine isn’t genocide because the Arab population in Israel is going up.
Any obsession with birth rates is a red flag for brain worms, as surely as talking about skull shape.
There’s some fair clause that it is a genocide, though if it is, it goes both ways. That and most of the conditions that Palestine and Gaza put themselves in are from their own mistakes and faults in the past, such as declaring war a few times (and losing all of them), attacking their neighbouring countries and attacking Europe.
Not that this justifies Israel’s violence. They were killing innocent Arabs before Hamas.
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Any intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group - in whole or in part - is genocide.
This includes killing people, causing severe bodily or mental harm, preventing births, forcibly transferring children to another group, or deliberately creating conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction.
Doing it counts. Conspiring to do it counts. Publicly inciting it to happen counts. Trying to do it obviously counts. Being complicit in any of that, counts.
This is the fucking UN definition of genocide. I am just barely paraphrasing from the relevant articles of convention. If you care more about tone-policing and gatekeeping than you do about an overt effort to dehumanize and kill a specific group in a specific region for ethnic and religious differences, you can eat shit.
If not - we can talk.
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In light of the edit overtly declaring bigoted superiority, reported and blocked.
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Don’t bother. Mindbleach has been a perpetual spammer who just yells his moronic political stances and then acts like he’s superior by ignoring everything anyone else says.
Hey buddy? They both are. Israel is why Palestine is an open-air prison. Israel is the side that keeps killing those human shields, indiscriminately, without one shred of remorse. Apartments, hospitals, refugee centers, whatever.
Maybe inviting the world’s Jews to “go back to Africa” in the exact goddamn center of the Muslim middle-east was not a sensible idea, in terms of minimizing ethno-religious strife.
No country wanted to kill as many Germans as possible - they wanted the fucking war to end. They wanted to kill Hitler specifically, disrupt the Nazi regime, and go back to merely civilized levels of hating one another. Israel hasn’t fucking done that, with Palestine. Mostly they’ve just continued bombing. They’ve made token efforts to claim they want a rehabilitated Palestinian state… but always alongside collective abuses like the strict blockade that obviously leaves Israel in de-facto control of the region’s survival.
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Have it your way.
Hey asshole - don’t split hairs about Gaza versus Palestine, then freely swap between Palestine and Hamas!
For the second and final time: saying you’re gonna do it is not the only thing that counts. Israel’s actions constitute genocide. What they say does not matter. The fact Hamas says it out loud neither absolves Israel nor condemns the rest of Palestine.
If Palestine gets their way, they’ll stop being a densely-populated ghetto amid fresh piles of rubble. Israel will stop using the actions of Hamas to justify killing X*10 number of Palestinians. Children and journalists will stop getting shot near the fuckoff enormous wall keeping them pressed against a sea they’re not really allowed to use.
Human shields did not bomb Israel. Declaring “THEY” keep doing it is collective punishment - also a war crime, by the way. All of this is two sides that fucking hate each other and keep doing obscene violence to each other, and your dumb ass wants to pretend it’s just a poor widdle innocent nuclear power being existentially threatened by people without consistent access to food.
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We? You’re not from Israel, are you? If not, then you should probably shut up.
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If you don’t have a citizenship, you don’t have much of an input.
You’ll need to chill tho
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No, I’m a mod, just letting you know you need to chill.
I’ve seen your comment history, you really need a snickers bar.