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I genuinely do believe it is killing a human. The whole “its just a clump of cells!” is a reductionist argument that serves no purpose. We are all clumps of cells. I’m not religious either.
No, it’s not reductionist. It’s exactly what it is. What is reductionist is making it some kind of moral panic based on misinterpretation of religious text in order to force your perspective on others. The bible gives instructions on how to perform an abortion, and we know that abortion saves lives. Ectopic pregnancy, miscarriages, and other perfectly legitimate medical reasons are part of why abortion access is necessary and should be enshrined as female health care. If you are secular and still anti-choice, then you might not understand that your personal morality has no place in an operating room.
Nope, that’s exactly what abortion is, birth control. That is exactly what it was established as decades ago, and exactly what that partisan Supreme Court overturned against the will of the people.
Yeah but killing a human in self defense is never murder.
Regardless, that clump of cells isn’t human, because it doesn’t have a brain, and that’s all that a human is. If it gets to the point where a brain is developing, it still remains a matter of self defense. Pregnancy is a life threatening condition, and no person has the right to use another person’s body without their consent.
I’m afraid I dont believe you. Have you approached the FBI, your local DA, over these “murders”? Have you even called the police? Have you hired a private investigator? If I knew someone was murdered I’d do all of these things.
Wow you really got me. By replying as if you were the original person I was replying to you really ruined my argument by correctly noting I did not go back and check which username I was replying to.
Very well, s/murder/“unlawful killings” in my previous reply
You’re the one trying to convince me that you absolutely believe abortion is the same as killing, which you have failed to do. So there’s absolutely no burden on me whatsoever to do anything at all.
I stated that I don’t believe the OP is being truthful in that they consider these truly murders, you jumped into say they were “killings” (and still haven’t given any further justification), and I don’t believe either of you.
You are still welcome to attempt to change my mind.
no one thinks it’s murder. not even you. you’re just lying to troll people (or because you hate women)
I genuinely do believe it is killing a human. The whole “its just a clump of cells!” is a reductionist argument that serves no purpose. We are all clumps of cells. I’m not religious either.
No, it’s not reductionist. It’s exactly what it is. What is reductionist is making it some kind of moral panic based on misinterpretation of religious text in order to force your perspective on others. The bible gives instructions on how to perform an abortion, and we know that abortion saves lives. Ectopic pregnancy, miscarriages, and other perfectly legitimate medical reasons are part of why abortion access is necessary and should be enshrined as female health care. If you are secular and still anti-choice, then you might not understand that your personal morality has no place in an operating room.
I’m not religious at all. Even though I’m not religious, I think it’s still fine for me to speak out on things I view as wrong.
I’m ok with abortion if the mothers life is directly at risk. I’m not ok with abortion being a backup birth control.
Nope, that’s exactly what abortion is, birth control. That is exactly what it was established as decades ago, and exactly what that partisan Supreme Court overturned against the will of the people.
Abortion is nothing less than birth control.
Yeah but killing a human in self defense is never murder.
Regardless, that clump of cells isn’t human, because it doesn’t have a brain, and that’s all that a human is. If it gets to the point where a brain is developing, it still remains a matter of self defense. Pregnancy is a life threatening condition, and no person has the right to use another person’s body without their consent.
I’m afraid I dont believe you. Have you approached the FBI, your local DA, over these “murders”? Have you even called the police? Have you hired a private investigator? If I knew someone was murdered I’d do all of these things.
I didn’t call them murders. Maybe try reading a bit more carefully.
Wow you really got me. By replying as if you were the original person I was replying to you really ruined my argument by correctly noting I did not go back and check which username I was replying to.
Very well, s/murder/“unlawful killings” in my previous reply
I didn’t say unlawful killings. Things can be legal and can still be wrong. I shouldn’t have to explain that to you.
good one you sure showed me that you’re deeply invested in this, genuinely, and have completely changed my mind that you’re doing this to be a troll.
maybe you should learn to read instead of shooting off questions that hold no relation to what we are talking about
You’re the one trying to convince me that you absolutely believe abortion is the same as killing, which you have failed to do. So there’s absolutely no burden on me whatsoever to do anything at all.
I stated that I don’t believe the OP is being truthful in that they consider these truly murders, you jumped into say they were “killings” (and still haven’t given any further justification), and I don’t believe either of you.
You are still welcome to attempt to change my mind.
Good news, it’s not.
whats not?