• goat
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    1 year ago

    No. I said that West Bank accepted peace treaties but Hamas refused them every single time, thus ending the treaties.

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      1 year ago

      I’ll engage just in case, but yeah this is very wrong. First, until 2006 the West Bank and Gaza were under one government, so the idea that the West Bank alone accepted any terms is very interesting, to say the least. Second, Israeli bullshit peace offers are too many so just say which one you want and I’ll explain why it was bullshit. The only exception was the Oslo accords in 1993-1995, but those fell through when the Israeli PM was fucking assassinated by a Zionist and replaced by Bibi, who called the whole thing off.

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      1 year ago

      The West Bank isn’t ruled by Hamas, they have zero presence there. You have a very limited perspective on this.

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          1 year ago

          Hamas can’t refuse a treaty for a territory they do not rule. Your argument is still ridiculous on its face.

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            1 year ago

            Yes, they can. They refused by attacking Israel.

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              Why is Hamas affecting a treaty between two parties that aren’t Hamas? You keep restating the premise but you haven’t justified why your premise is valid. The reality is that Hamas is a great excuse for Likud and the Zionist coalition to push for the one state solution they want without as bad of a pr storm.

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                1 year ago

                Because at the time, while the Palestine Government operated in Gaza, they didn’t actually hold power inside of Gaza. No, Hamas controlled Gaza and was in close contact with Arafat during the Accords.

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                  Ok? You said the West Bank refused treaties. Hamas doesn’t run the government there. The only reason the actions of extremists would affect negotiations with moderates is if you’re negotiating in bad faith and want to break the agreement while posturing as moral. Which I’m pretty sure is the Likud party’s policy given all the actions they’ve taken.