• h3rm17
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Poont is, I don’t really care who plays who, I’m okay with a trans woman being played by a cis dude, and a cis dude being played by a trans woman, it should not matter as long as their acting is good.

      • prole
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        What you are missing is a century plus of the thumb on the scale (much longer if you go back to Shakespeare where only men could play women). The world doesn’t suddenly become a complete meritocracy overnight (if ever), and striving for equal representation in the arts is very important.

        Just look at how children of color have been inspired since Disney decided to start making protagonists that look like them and have similar backgrounds.

      • Soulg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        I agree, but a key takeaway is to also ensure that trans actors aren’t discriminated against for any role so that they receive a fair chance.

    • aidan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      Why can’t they be? Your issue is when it’s mocking trans women, but anyone could play the role and then mock trans women.

      • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Are you aware that trans women are not physiologically the same as cis men? (If you weren’t, now you are.)

        Now do you understand how casting a cis man in the role of a trans woman will emphasize masculine features of the character, and that it plays into a narrative that trans women are men? (if you weren’t, now you are.)

        • aidan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          Are you aware that trans women are not physiologically the same as cis men?

          Everything I’ve seen has been based on brain difference trends. Not anything near indicating every trans woman is physiologically different from a cis man. (If they were you could easily identify trans babies for example.)

          Now do you understand how casting a cis man in the role of a trans woman will emphasize masculine features of the character, and that it plays into a narrative that trans women are men? (if you weren’t, now you are.)

          This is what I assumed was your concern, which honestly I think is shallow. You view it as transphobic to portray “non-passing” trans person (not to mention that a cis man could still pass) but, doesn’t that “erase”(I don’t agree that not depicting something erases it, but many believe it does) the experiences of non-passing trans women?

            • aidan@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              Okay and? Assuming that’s you saying you’re trans. Again, not all trans people are passing, take hormones, or corrective surgery. + There are plenty of non-permanent alternatives that a cis person could use. One of my best friends wears breast forms for example.

              • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                11 months ago

                Historically, trans woman characters have been played by men.

                " bUt NoT AlL"

                fuck off. The majority of trans women are physiologically different from men; the majority of actors who have played trans women are men. That’s fucked.

      • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Okay, so, addendum: if the story is set in a time or place where the character wouldn’t have access to hormones, then it’s fine.

        There’s also a case to be made that if you have sufficient fuckery with CGI, you could make a story during an ongoing medical transition.

        What I’m talking about is throwing a wig and some powder on some lantern jawed dude and calling it a day.