I guess that means it’s dead, as there’s no way a corporation would pay millions to acquire a competitor just to continue developing a free alternative to their own product

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    157 months ago

    Ooooor it will become a free vs corporate solution like RedHat and the likes do.
    Portainer also does it for example. I think LDAP-Auth is paywalled but it makes sense that features like that are.

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        117 months ago

        Yes! As soon as your homelab grows above a couple of services and especially if it’s used by two or more people SSO becomes an absolute necessity! The tolerance of non-technical users for handling a bunch of passwords and having to enter them everywhere is understandably low.

        The Home Assistant devs apparently also deal SSO as “a corporate feature that big-corp interests want to force onto us” whereas it’s the exact opposite in many cases: If we want self hosted services to be a realistic alternative to the “big corpo offerings” then we have to consider convenience and security an important feature and SSO is one of the few things that improves both at the same time.

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          07 months ago

          Here’s to hoping that your users aren’t using Portainer to manage their Docker stacks haha

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          -47 months ago

          Idk why you’d need LDAP login as the admin for a homelab.
          For other things like owncloud it makes sense but not there but eh…Personal preference I guess.

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            57 months ago

            Once I’ve set up SSO I’d want to use it in as many places as possible. Not having to handle additional unnecessary passwords is a benefit.

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            27 months ago

            I have something like 40-60 machines between hypervisors, VM, and physical. Central auth is an absolute must for that scale. Sure I could just re use the same password 60 times, but if that gets popped, I’d also have to change it 60 times (adding config management is a soon to be completed task)

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              -27 months ago

              You can’t call that a home environment anymore.
              That is corporate scale and imo can be monetized

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                17 months ago

                Actually, I legally can’t make money off of it for reasons that would dox me.

                I already pay for both VMware and Microsoft licensing among several others. If I can get my SSO by saving a little bit of money by using a different product, I will. I don’t mind paying for software I use when it makes sense, I only disagree with companies up-charging features like SSO that should be available to all customers.

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      It might be, but in the history of that corp, they never had a free/community/oss project. It looks like the typical Embrace Extend Extinguish strategy, where you acquire competitors just to get their customer base instead of the real product. OC 10 it’s already dead (no php 8 support) and ocis has almost no plugins.

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        17 months ago

        Didn’t know about their history.
        If that was the case: Fun while it lasted. Havent used it thus far but I wasn’t against the situation if it justified the use of it.