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    11 months ago

    Tell ya what, i bet if every production company magically disappeared tomorrow we would still have new shows. It’d start out like the early days of youtube (my favorite btw) but in my (perhaps unusual) opinion Netflix, disney, sony, et al are more a barrier to quality content than a benefit.

    I mean, how many really really good things did you watch last year? What interesting, unusual things might we have seen this year if marvel 25 and spidweman 15 etc weren’t taking up all the air?

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      10 months ago

      I mean, how many really really good things did you watch last year?

      We talking movies and TV shows in general, or only ones that came out in 2023? If the latter, then Dungeons and Dragons was the only good thing I watched last year

      Most of the good shows I watched last year were animes that came out around the turn of the century

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        10 months ago

        or only ones that came out in 2023?

        You got it! i dug into my anime backlog last year too, but I’ve not seen of early 2000s stuff. Will you tell me what your liked?

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          7 months ago

          Hope you’re ready for a wall of text!

          Early 2000’s anime has definitely aged. In my opinion the aesthetic of it has aged extremely well, but I understand that the relatively poor animation and picture quality are enough to turn some people off to it. If you like the aesthetic as much as I do, then I have a whole list. I’m not much of a shonen guy, so a lot of these are calmer, less action-packed shows.

          My personal favorite anime is Haibane Renmei, from 2002. The story seems like a mystery at first, but the show never answers most of the questions it raises–it’s not about finding answers, it’s about the characters, and how they act and react both towards each other and towards the world they live in. The setting is what really pulled me in–it has the same timeless, liminal feel that Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, and The Last Guardian have.

          Cowboy Bebop and Trigun are staples. Both 1998 shows. It’s hard to believe that Cowboy Bebop was made in the 20th century. Both shows have good plotlines, lovable characters, well-made action sequences. It’s hard to write anything about them that hasn’t been written before. Watch em!

          Witch Hunter Robin from 2002 was pretty good, imo. It’s a mystery series about a team of witch hunters. It starts out as a sort of monster (or witch, as it were) of the week show before pivoting into a longer story arc about the characters discovering a conspiracy. The show looks drab and gloomy at first, but really it’s absolutely dripping with character, and Amon is the only person in the show that never really seems happy. The action sequences are largely made up of characters just sort of standing and staring at each other, but the camera work and visual effects make it look really good in my opinion.

          Fullmetal Alchemist '03 was the first FMA I watched when I was a kid, but never got around to finishing until last year. It’s really good. Brotherhood and '03 are largely similar (with minor differences) up until the 5th Laboratory, where they diverge severely. Personally I felt like '03 had a more concise, well-told story. Having fewer characters worked in its favor, because it gave the characters that it does have more time to develop. It also takes itself a lot more seriously than Brotherhood–it feels more like a seinen than a shonen.

          Planetes (also from 2003) is the hardest sci-fi that I think I’ve ever seen. It’s about team of orbital debris haulers in the 2070s. At first it’s a slice of life show about their day to day activities, and partway through it becomes something of a political drama/action show. It’s cool. The main character is a little bit annoyingly idealistic in the first few episodes, but after that it’s a solid 10/10 from me.

          Last Exile (also 2003) is one of my favorite shows. It’s very confusing at first, it feels like there’s a couple of episodes worth of exposition missing in the middle, but all in all I absolutely adored it. It never gives you any more information than you need to know, and it never wastes time explaining how its universe works. How do vanships fly? Because of claudia. What is claudia? It’s the fuel that makes vanships fly. You never even find out what Exile means until like 23 episodes in. The show is extremely aware of its own aesthetic, in a way that the sequel series from 2011 kind of wasn’t. Still worth watching both series IMO, because the sequel finds its own footing in time.

          Mushishi (2005) is another calm one. Probably the calmest one. Watching it is like meditating. It follows a sort of travelling doctor who tries to help people when their interactions with the ethereal mushi (they are explicitly living things, but for the sake of storytelling, you can think of them as spirits) turn harmful. Every episode is a new place, a new mushi, a new story. It’s masterfully crafted, and the slow pace ensures that not a single frame goes to waste. The early 2000’s aesthetic works heavily in its favor, making it fit right in with Studio Ghibli’s works, even though it was an Artland joint.

          Baccano was 2007, so a bit late to call it “turn of the century,” but it has the same sort of aesthetic and vibe that most of these shows have. The story has a wide variety of characters, each with their own fully fleshed out stories, all intertwining like a spider’s web as they meet and influence each other. It’s really good. Watch the dub!

          Right now I’m nearing the end of Noir (2002). I couldn’t tell you if it’s worth watching until I finish it (just in case it ends badly), but so far I’m liking it. It’s about a pair of assassins, one of whom has amnesia and only knows that she’s somehow connected to the other, and the other who is trying to find out who killed her family and why. If I have one gripe with the series, it’s that they don’t ever show any blood on screen. They aren’t afraid of showing people die on screen, a lot of people die in every episode, but aside from holes appearing in people’s clothing, there doesn’t appear to be any actual violence.

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            10 months ago

            Ok i need to check some of these out since our tastes appear similar. Thank you for sharing, and with a little write up for each too! Appreciate the “wall of text”

            I want to reciprocate, but like i said i haven’t seen many from that era. An exception is wolfs rain from 2003. Its probably my fav anime of all time actually, so if yu haven’t seen it, it might be right up your alley.

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              7 months ago

              Took me a few months to get back to you, but it totally was! My car’s been blaring Stray more than any other song for the last couple months

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                7 months ago

                Oh hooray! I had wondered if I’d hear from you again! What did you think? I would love to hear it

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                  7 months ago

                  It was awesome! It gave me strong Last Exile vibes, despite the two series being nothing alike. Out of the anime I listed in that comment, it’s the one I’d recommend the most based on Wolf’s Rain

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              10 months ago

              I’m kinda bad at explaining but I’ll toss some more names (as well as reiterating suggestions for FMA03, Mushishi and Planetes, all 3 great shows):

              -Gankutsuou: Sci-Fi reimagining of the Count of Monte Cristo. It has some weird choices but it’s overall really good.

              -Kaiji: an indebted guy does gambling to try to solve his problems. Lots of mind games and suspense, way better than what it sounds like. One of my personal favorites.

              -Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni: Horror/Mystery series set in a secluded village. It has some clichès and the animation… isn’t the best, but I really liked it personally. Don’t bother with the third and fourth seasons that came out recently (or do, but they’re honestly not needed at all).

              -Monster: Thriller about an ex-Surgeon trying to find a past patient turned murderer. From Urasawa, if you know the name.

              -Paranoia Agent: Mystery semi-episodic series about a lot of different characters, their life struggles and a mysterious boy going around beating people with a golden bat for no apparent reason. From Satoshi Kon (his movies are all really good too btw).

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      10 months ago

      Tbh I haven’t watched Netflix in a couple months - there are too many interesting things to watch that are not there! - but I do like knowing that some (probably tiny proportion but still more than zero?) of my funds goes to the original content creators, plus CC is built right in and it’s actually a solid streaming delivery, when you do find something worthwhile - as opposed to e.g. 123 streaming that can be extremely hit-or-miss (plus shows yanked entirely without notice). The point about the early days of YouTube is well taken, though as you implied that has not held up over time.

      To be clear I am not advocating for anyone else to do so, just saying that I do (sometimes), although I am open to cmv too. It bothers me that anytime something actually gets popular Netflix drops it, though it’s nice that I don’t have to maintain a huge library of files and spend time on curation, so there is definitely both benefits as well as detractions.