It was almost 15 months ago that The New York Post published a full-page cover photo of Ron DeSantis with the headline “DeFUTURE.” His 19-point victory in the Florida governor’s race was one of the few bright spots of the 2022 elections for a weary Republican elite, which was desperately looking to move on from Donald Trump after his handpicked candidates cost the party key Senate seats.
A year later, as Mr. DeSantis’s presidential campaign stalled, at least a handful of G.O.P. megadonors found new hope in Nikki Haley, with the Koch network announcing millions of dollars in support of her presidential campaign.
It would be fair to say that the project has fallen flat: Mr. DeSantis suspended his presidential campaign on Jan. 21, and Ms. Haley’s hopes have now dwindled to a thin thread after her loss in New Hampshire.
By Donald Trump and his allies, this primary will be portrayed as a victory over a Republican establishment with which he had been at odds for years. But although Mr. Trump has routinely positioned himself as a political outsider, it is clear — now more than ever — that he has become the Republican establishment, and the party’s fate increasingly seems inextricably tied to his.
The former president now controls the Republican Party by virtually every conceivable measure. He has a commanding lead in fund-raising and polling. His policies are a beacon to which most conservative lawmakers orient themselves in affairs both foreign and domestic. His endorsement remains the single most coveted asset that any Republican could hope to brandish in a primary race, and he has already received support from an overwhelming majority of prominent elected Republicans.
This article definitely brings up an interesting question of where do Republicans go from here? If Trump is beaten again, it feels like the Republican party will not drift to far from the anchor point that is Trump. It feels like every election going forward will be a close call with the death of american democracy until the Republican platform changes to accepting the election and acknowledging that Trump is dangerous.
Theyve gone all in. They either achieve a fascist dictatorship or spend 100 years in the wilderness. Its the death rattle of the boomers and christianity.
I think you may need to expand on what you mean by spend 100 years in the wilderness. From my prospective, it feels like MAGAts will feel very disenfranchised by the fact that the “bad guys” are winning politically. They will see things as, if the political system is corrupt, and favors democrats, then the political system should be done away with and corrected by other means (violence). Basically, MAGAts not winning will mean additional national turmoil until its addressed.
Maybe. I wonder if a failure in 2024 is going to cause one of those huge poltical realignment. Trump has raised a lot of money, but he’s also costing Republicans big time. He keeps getting tangled up in lawsuits that the GOP is paying for, him and the entourage of scammers that hover around him have been very steadily siphoning money out of their voter base, and Trump candidates now seem to do great in primaries and flounder in general elections. I know more traditional conservatives that probably never would have voted blue but have broken with the GOP and are now voting against MAGA wherever it pops up. It kind of feels like the whole republican party is getting ready to implode under the weight of this bozo.
I’m not so sure. The one data point that runs against your theory is that while Republican gerrymandering can be attributed to GOP wins in many races, in places like North Carolina statewide races are still going for them by relatively wide margins. In 2022, Ted Budd won a Senate seat with a +3 point margin, despite Democrats holding a nationwide polling advantage in the post-Roe era. 2022 NC House races saw 57% of votes to go Republicans, and NC Senate races saw nearly 59% of votes go to Republicans. The 2022 NC Supreme Court race gave the Republican a +5 point margin. Their political future might be shaky for nationwide races and in particular swing states, but in the US Senate where they have the structural advantage of representing open land, and in Congressional races where their influence in certain red state houses can translate upward, they’re still very solidly in control and under no pressure to change course.
I’m a bit more optimistic about the future if Trump loses. To me, the Republicans are in the throes of a cult of personality, and from what I can tell, there is no Trumpism heir apparent. There will be people who try, like DeSantis, but no one has the singular charisma that Trump does.
My prediction is that after 2024, if Trump loses (which is a very big if), 2028 will have a warmed over Trumpist candidate, like DeSantis, who will probably lose. After that, they will have to figure out an actual platform, and around 2030 is when Trumpism will hopefully, finally die.
I feel the problems stem from local support. Maybe DeSantis won’t win the presidency 2028, but he can still win being a senator, or governor by continuing to push being Trump-like. I feel this would continue to occur in different states as the local voters appear to want that.
Speaking of that “if,” I’m prepared to hope there’s a McHeartattack headed his way long before his first 4 years of his lifetime appointment, if it comes to that. But I’m really, really hoping I never have to come to that point.
The Republican party has been putting brick after brick down about how they intend to run the country. It’s just that they couldn’t wrap their warped brains around the fact that someone so out of touch with reality got in and figured out the hard way. The Republicans are used to having people like both Bush in W and H.W, like McCain, like Romney, like Reagan, like Nixon and so on.
They played with fire on Trump and it horribly backfired on them because they thought that they could recover after one term. But if there was one thing Trump did was that along with his bullshit, he routed the bullshit of other Republicans and had their hands revealed to everyone.
The only direction for Republicans right now is to just one-up eachother, like DeSantis tried with Trump. There’s no going back because they’re too prideful to dial down their craziness.