I encourage everyone who cares about piracy to not talk about it in an outright and encouraging manner. Here’s some examples based on what people are publicly posting:
-“This is why we commit crimes”
-“I think it’s crazy that everyone doesn’t commit crimes.”
-“Committing crimes is justified when I can’t do it legally.”
Do you think corporations would be upset with people encouraging what legally equates to theft?
Do you think corporations are unaware of if their legal property is popularly being stolen?
Do you think corporations avoid scraping lemmy for data or trends?
Do you think corporations have unreasonable power to lobby government and push legislation?
Maybe you should all quit narcing yourselves and making a public spectacle before another wave of legal action takes place to dissuade another generation, like what happened back in the Napster days.
I mean, it sounds less like narcing on ourselves and more like imploring businesses to stop stealing from us. The reason we don’t pay for shit is because when we do, it just gets taken away from us. If it didn’t, we would pay for stuff.
Businesses aren’t implored to be less shitty or charge you less. Businesses are implored to upheave whatever avenue you use to steal possible profit. When Businesses hear everyone is pirating again they aren’t going to lower their prices or increase their service value. They are going to give pirates the shift.
Read between the lines. If you want to continue pirating don’t talk about it online. If you want them to feel it in their wallet, don’t talk about it.
After napster there was torrenting and after torrenting there was torrenting with VPN and All the while there was USENET…
There will always be a way. Don’t worry.
My point is that it’s an unstoppable force created by their greed and forced by their hand. In theis case, capitalism has done a shitty job of providing this service and that they’ve created a whole alternative ecosystem.
This latest bullshit is just the cherry on top.
The way I see it, we could do this or we could create laws against how they’re doing that. Get regulation passed, organize, and have class actions against them until balance is achieved.
I would wager the capitalists with billions of dollars have a bit easier time passing legislation than any of us commoners do.
They are the force.
I’m just saying if everyone that steals from Walmart then goes online to tell everyone that they stole, and everyone pats them on the back, don’t be so surprised when Walmart invests to have officers guarding the exit, and pushes some mandatory minimum sentences to make shoplifting harder and riskier.
Do you really think that these corporations need to see spy on our forum talks before they realize how and what is being pirated?
The “don’t talk about Usenet” idea has always been silly and really underestimates the tenacity of the ones who are fighting piracy. This is not done by the technically illiterate figurehead CEO of a company who needs reports about what DrillBlaster74 said on Reddit was the latest hype in the *arr family.
Any sufficiently effective way of pirating is on the radar of those that care, and no amount of hush hush tactics is going to change that. What we need is an intelligent approach to how these function and how we use them, not some pact to never talk about them.
I never said to stop talking about them. I said people who do pirate should stop openly telling people that they do so. To say there is nothing corporations and the government can do is downplaying their power. The senate already thinks the internet is a series of tubes. Let’s not give them a reason to plug those tubes.
I encourage everyone who cares about piracy to not talk about it in an outright and encouraging manner. Here’s some examples based on what people are publicly posting:
-“This is why we commit crimes”
-“I think it’s crazy that everyone doesn’t commit crimes.”
-“Committing crimes is justified when I can’t do it legally.”
Do you think corporations would be upset with people encouraging what legally equates to theft?
Do you think corporations are unaware of if their legal property is popularly being stolen?
Do you think corporations avoid scraping lemmy for data or trends?
Do you think corporations have unreasonable power to lobby government and push legislation?
Maybe you should all quit narcing yourselves and making a public spectacle before another wave of legal action takes place to dissuade another generation, like what happened back in the Napster days.
I mean, it sounds less like narcing on ourselves and more like imploring businesses to stop stealing from us. The reason we don’t pay for shit is because when we do, it just gets taken away from us. If it didn’t, we would pay for stuff.
Businesses aren’t implored to be less shitty or charge you less. Businesses are implored to upheave whatever avenue you use to steal possible profit. When Businesses hear everyone is pirating again they aren’t going to lower their prices or increase their service value. They are going to give pirates the shift.
Read between the lines. If you want to continue pirating don’t talk about it online. If you want them to feel it in their wallet, don’t talk about it.
After napster there was torrenting and after torrenting there was torrenting with VPN and All the while there was USENET… There will always be a way. Don’t worry.
Yes of course there will be a way. That isn’t the point.
My point is that it’s an unstoppable force created by their greed and forced by their hand. In theis case, capitalism has done a shitty job of providing this service and that they’ve created a whole alternative ecosystem.
This latest bullshit is just the cherry on top.
The way I see it, we could do this or we could create laws against how they’re doing that. Get regulation passed, organize, and have class actions against them until balance is achieved.
I would wager the capitalists with billions of dollars have a bit easier time passing legislation than any of us commoners do.
They are the force.
I’m just saying if everyone that steals from Walmart then goes online to tell everyone that they stole, and everyone pats them on the back, don’t be so surprised when Walmart invests to have officers guarding the exit, and pushes some mandatory minimum sentences to make shoplifting harder and riskier.
You’re right. They do. Unless we act as one.
In the mean time we should probably agree to not talk about committing crimes on the Internet eh?
Do you really think that these corporations need to see spy on our forum talks before they realize how and what is being pirated?
The “don’t talk about Usenet” idea has always been silly and really underestimates the tenacity of the ones who are fighting piracy. This is not done by the technically illiterate figurehead CEO of a company who needs reports about what DrillBlaster74 said on Reddit was the latest hype in the *arr family.
Any sufficiently effective way of pirating is on the radar of those that care, and no amount of hush hush tactics is going to change that. What we need is an intelligent approach to how these function and how we use them, not some pact to never talk about them.
I never said to stop talking about them. I said people who do pirate should stop openly telling people that they do so. To say there is nothing corporations and the government can do is downplaying their power. The senate already thinks the internet is a series of tubes. Let’s not give them a reason to plug those tubes.