• Hyperreality
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    4 months ago

    IME the battery isn’t the issue, especially if you get a phone with a big battery to begin with.

    It’s the lack of updates that’s the issue which means you can no longer use certain critical apps (banking, government, etc.) on your phone.

    The phone becomes obsolete before the battery ever dies.

    • @brb
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      24 months ago

      You can always switch to some custom rom after you stop getting updates

      • Hyperreality
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        24 months ago

        Know any banking apps that work with a custom rom?

        What about your national governments designing an identification or tax related app that works on a custom rom?

        Good luck with that.

        • bitwolf
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          24 months ago

          Some banks have decent mobile sites. But it does suck to have to resort to that.

          It won’t turn out well having only a few companies acting as gatekeepers.

        • @[email protected]
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          They don’t have to. Nobody designs their apps to work with specific ROMs, they design it to work with Android. Custom ROMs are still android ROMs, they’re just managed by open source communities instead of phone OEMs.

          • Hyperreality
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            44 months ago

            But if you have the ‘wrong’ version of android, the app will simply refuse to work. These kinds of apps are understandably picky because of security. And you can’t expect banks/governments to make exceptions for a small minority who uses a custom version of android.

            • @WhyJiffie
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              24 months ago

              That does not depend on the version, but on google’s safetynet. Apps can check with it if your phone runs an approved installation, which means not just being limited to the original ROM, but one that still contains all the garbage data mining apps that will also drain your battery and your mobile data plan, besides taking away your privacy.

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              4 months ago

              Who do you think that custom ROMs don’t use the latest version of Android?

              And what do you think “custom version of Android” means? Every single android phone OEM needs to make their own ROMs. Are they all running custom android? Even Google pixels?

        • @brb
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          14 months ago

          Magisk denylist has worked for me. There was one app that refused to cooperate but I got it working using Shelter

        • @[email protected]
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          -14 months ago

          Your banking apps starts to only work on latest Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max+ and only on Verizon 5G network.

          OH, I’ll guess I have to switch, there is no other option for me.

    • @WhyJiffie
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      14 months ago

      Who cares, if I can’t use those apps even if it isn’t outdated but I just want to remove the ton of built-in data mining crap.