• otp
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    9 months ago

    If Biden is the democrat candidate running against Trump, and if a person lives in a riding/region where their vote matters (e.g., not a Republican stronghold)… (and assuming the person DOESN’T want Trump to win)

    • Voting for Biden supports a Democrat victory
    • Voting for Trump supports a Republican victory
    • Voting third party takes a vote away from Biden, thus supporting a Republican victory
    • Abstaining from voting takes a vote away from Biden, thus supporting a Republican victory

    So if you want the Republicans to lose, a person should vote for Biden.

    I’m sorry. It’s the way the US political system works, and it’s the way it works where I live, too.

    If you don’t want Trump to win (and the rest of the other “ifs” also apply to your situation), then your only choice at the polls is to vote for Biden. Not liking your options won’t change the reality of the situation.

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      9 months ago

      This doesn’t really address my point. I understand how first past the post works (also from a country with this system), the issue is whether Biden is going to win at all. Polls say no and maybe that should be an issue?

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        9 months ago

        maybe that should be an issue?

        It’s not as these people are already crafting their excuses for why it’ll be someone else’s fault if he loses just like Trump did right before the 2020 election. Democrats want to keep the status quo of shitty politics which is why they aren’t doing anything to improve the situation and why we’re not allowed to criticize them. Just shut your eyes and mouth and toe the party line!

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        8 months ago

        Criticizing Biden on something as niche as Lemmy won’t make Biden better. But it might make people less likely to vote for Biden.

        Conservatives/Republicans don’t just try to win by getting votes. They also try to win by reducing the number of voters (whether by creating barriers to voting, or spreading voter apathy (especially towards the other party/parties))

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          8 months ago

          Criticizing Biden on something as niche as Lemmy won’t make Biden better. But it might make people less likely to vote for Biden.

          Oh sorry I better fuck off to Twitter then. I know Biden isn’t reading. I still have freedom of speech and can say whatever I like on Lemmy.

          You can tell me I’m helping the republicans if you want, I don’t care. Either it’s on me for expressing my opinion or it’s on Biden for sending weapons and providing political cover to a government on trial for genocide. If you want to blame me and people like me I think that says more about you than it does about us.

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            8 months ago

            Is it “a thing” to bring up freedom of speech when one doesn’t have a good argument? Lol

            I guess it does happen pretty often.

            “What you’re saying is inaccurate”

            But I have freedom of speech!

            Lol

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              8 months ago

              No it’s a “thing” to bring it up if someone says “don’t share your opinion,” super clear from the conversation.

              “What you’re saying is inaccurate”

              Yeah if you had said that it would have been a very stupid response