• socialjusticewizard
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    1 year ago

    I didn’t say there are no LGBTQ+ people who aren’t conservative, I said there is no definition of conservatism that is safe for lgbtq+ people, and also adequately describes conservatism.

    There were jews who supported the nazi party. That doesn’t mean they didn’t get sent to concentration camps.

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      1 year ago

      Conservativism just means not wanting things to change. If you grew up in a society where LGBT rights are already inviolate (such as San Francisco), it’s perfectly possible to just want to keep the status quo.

      You’re mixing up conservativism and the Republican party. The fringe Republicans aren’t even conservative - they’re reactionary. They want to go backwards.

      Think of a spectrum:

      Revolutionary - progressive - conservative - reactionary.

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        1 year ago

        That is indeed what conservatives declare, but it’s a nonsensical position and doesn’t describe any conservative stance ever. Conservatives always have plenty of things they’re fine with changing, and the line between what’s okay to change and what they are not is where the actual definition comes in. It’s also always regressive, because it always includes opposition to changes that they perceive as being “new” when in fact they are not (such as, topically, drag shows).

        This is why I asked how you define it, though.