• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Tbf according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven. Cause you can just say “sorry Jesus!” And all your murder and cannibalism is forgiven.

    Also according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven and his victims are in hell for being gay, ain’t that some shit?

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      There is way more nuance to and lack of agreement on these topics than is presented here. Do I think God could forgive Jeffrey Dhamer? Absolutely. Do people go to “hell” for being gay? Absolutely not. First, because hell (as in the place of eternal torment) doesn’t exist. Second, being gay isnt a sin.

      And yes, I know there’s an army of other Christians out there who are are foaming at the mouth in disagreement.

      Source: am Christian.

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          Gays are welcome in Valhalla, just so long as they fought valiantly to the death like their hetero brethren.

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          I’ve had the notion of producing some SDXL images of jesus doing hateful things that Christians do, like holding up a “god hates f*gs” sign or roaring and frothing at a trump rally. Make them see what “Christ through them” looks like. Put it on billboards and shit.

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            To a sizeable number of “Christians”, Jesus is more of an abstract concept than an actual being. Believing he existed is more important than listening to or living out what he had to say. I mean, I’ve actually quoted passages from the bible to people when they try to rug sweep Trumps many moral bankruptcies or start shitting all over poor people or immigrants. And what do they do? They look down at their feet for a few seconds with a sort of guilty expression on their face. Then, they just kind of shake it off and launch right back into whatever bullshit they were spouting before.

            If any of those people ever bothered to crack a bible, they would find a fair chunk of it is spent vehemently railing against the things they are pushing for.

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              It’s ome thing to abstract it and another entirely to be staring at a billboard where your god is shown to be as vile and hate-fuelled as you are. Make them get angry about it, and point out at every enfuriated comment that they’re only proving the point.

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            Good idea. It is odd how the old and New Testament seem to be at odds with each other in so many ways yet “Christians” who supposedly follow Christ seem to think “god” or the Old Testament biblical version of him, outweighs christs teachings of god, whenever they feel like being justified in their hatred. They’re closer to Muslim than Christian in their closeness of actions to teachings.