I’ve never played any of the Diablos, or met anyone who has. But they are obviously popular for a reason. Are they worth going back to the first one?
Edit: Thanks for the answers, the community is alive! Based on you recommendations it looks like I’m going to give 2 resurrected a try.
I personally love the games; they provide a satisfying gameplay loop of murdering hoardes of enemies to get better equipment so you can kill even stronger enemies. Using new builds and discovering new attack combinations/synergies is a lot of fun as well!
Diablo 1 has a great atmosphere but is pretty lacking by modern game standards. If you decide to play it, I’d recommend adding the Hellfire expansion so you get an extra class and the ability to sprint.
Diablo 2 is brilliant and lets you party up with up to 7 people instead of the max of 4 in D3 and D4. It’s definitely a tougher game compared to the newer releases.
Diablo 3 is a fantastic game now that they’ve added the Adventure mode and rifts which make it way easier to tackle quests and grind for gear. It’s also almost limitless on its difficulty unless you invest hundreds of hours into a character.
I’ve been jamming on Diablo 4 since it came out, and it could work out to being the best in the series; however, it’s clear that it has a bit of growing to do. The skills are fun and fair though, and the five classes are diverse enough to give you plenty to chew on as you discover your preferred play style.
Obviously I love them, but I could see how others might find them repetitive. I’d snag D3 on sale (or it’s probably discounted now) and decide if you feel like D4 would be worth $70.
If you like action RPGs, diablo 2 is the game that made it into what the genre is today for the most part. It’s practically a perfect game from a fundamentals and gameplay standpoint (meaning it’s perfect at what it aimed to do and the impact it’s had, not that it’s without flaws). I have never been as into AARPGs as my friends, I burn out on them too quickly usually, and I don’t have the patience for the grind. But for people who like that style, it’s the OG. Its probably the first game I ever sunk more than 100 hours into, but those are rookie numbers for AARPG vets.
Diablo 1 is fantastic, but is very dated at this point. Partly because Diablo 2 improved on damn near everything.
Diablo 3 was…fine. I played through it twice when it launched and I’ve never touched it again. It was/is insanely popular but it wasn’t for me.
I haven’t played 4 and personally don’t plan to, but it seems like people really like it so far! I’m not against it by any means, I’m just not into the seasonal content type games, and I really prefer to play single player, and I play offline a ton. I can’t keep up with the grind or the time commitment, but wish the best for those that can and enjoy that game style.
I played 1 through 3, including a bit of Resurrected. I definitely favour 2, though, having played it for probably thousands of hours.
I’d recommend any of them, 2 even more so, what’s with the release of Resurrected.
Diablo 1 has an almost old-school D&D feel to it, establishing many staples of the series, such as the itemization, the lore, the character stats and inventory management aspects, among others. It definitely feels a bit dated, but I’d recommend trying out DevilutionX (on GitHub) to mitigate that. It’s a project that adds many quality of life features and allows the game to feel a bit more of a modern experience, with larger resolutions, better and configurable controls, access to content that was cut from the original, and many other things.
Diablo 3 is the one I played the least, but I’d still say to give it a go. It’s more of an arcade experience, with combos, hordes of enemies, giant numbers on wearable loot and, as much as I could gather, a simpler experience all around. It’s probably the most hated entry on the series, but I still had loads of fun with it if only for lore reasons.
Diablo 2 is… well, Diablo 2. Depending on whether you play LoD (“Classic”, you could say), or Resurrected, it can be a very unbalanced game. Builds and classes are clearly better than others. Itemization is on its own level, being the best I’ve encountered in my entire life and the main reason why I keep coming back to it. It’s also why it’s such a grind of a game, which is not for everyone. Anyway, I definitely recommend 2 over the others, which is not to say that they are not good games.
As for plot… well, you can play all games without reading a single line of dialogue, but you can if you want and I like the games for that.
Edit for clarity: you don’t need to play the games in any order, as the plots are mostly self contained, but I do think it’s very rewarding to go through them and seeing the plot unfold. There are many iconic moments.
Diablo 2 is… well Diablo 2.
For real tho. It’s like trying to describe Zelda. It’s fuckin ZELDA bro.
I only ever played diablo 2, but I had a lot of fun playing it!
I wouldn’t recommend going as far back as the first one. Diablo 2 Resurrected came out last year and is a good starting point for the series if you’re thinking about trying it out. I never got into 3, but so far 4 feels really good.
Thanks! I’ll look for resurrected then. If you don’t mind replying, what is with the massive appeal of the game?
Appeal of Diablo in general, or 2 specifically? For 2 specifically, it’s a lot of nostalgia. It was one of the most popular games when it came out and for years afterwards. A lot of the aspects of the game design still hold up really well even today, and still draw you in with trying to get more loot, trying a different build, etc.
If you’re into character progression, and loot, then you’ll love Diablo. The loot system is great and really draws you in to playing more.
The art and ambiance is also amazing, and from what I can tell Resurrected is pretty faithful to the original.
There are some rough parts (like stamina, chugging potions, etc) given the age.
You have to remember that this game came out a long time ago, it had many features at the time that set it above other games.
It had a good storyline, multiplayer, maps that would change every time you logged in (multiplayer), the ability to be powerful after spending a lot of time in the game (and if you saw anyone with a rare/cool looking armor you know they worked for it, there were no lootbox mechanics where you could just pay money for it). And of course… there is no cow level ;) The skill tree allowed for tons of different abilities and combos, or you could grind away at a single skill and become godly with it.
You may not recognize the appeal to the game now just because so many of the mechanics have been copied and implemented in countless other games since then.
Also curious about this. I’ve played torchlight and it’s similar and I enjoyed that
Diablo 3 and Torchlight II are really similar in my opinion. Both scratch the dungeon+area overworld play style that I really enjoy.
See, torchlight 1 had some og Diablo(1/2) developers. I don’t know about torchlight 2 cause it gets a bit crazy at the time that I drop the entire drop loot arpg/genre. (including Boardersland 2, any drop loot game basically. ) I just went back to Monster Hunter instead.
I never knew that. I’ve never played Diablo but have sunk countless hours in Torchlight, it’s one of my all time favourite games. It was also the gateway that lead me to Skyrim, my current addiction.
D2 (Not D2R) is also a lot like Torchlight II in some ways but because of its age it’s honestly rougher around the edges. D2’s got nice, streamlined, and somewhat easy to understand skill trees, a mix of overworld/dungeon areas, and really fun loot.
The few problems I have with D2 these days are: the lack of QoL features (no pet to pick up stuff for you and sell it) you have to use town portals to sell your junk. Combat in D2 usually boils down to spamming around 1-2 abilities, which is only fun because when you get powerful enough those abilities are super ultra powerful and make you feel like a god. The worst thing about D2 is that classes and builds really are unbalanced, but thankfully its actually a single player game like torchlight 2 so you can use mods, change the difficulty levels, and even cheat to your heart’s content.
If you like Torchlight II you should give D2 a try if you can stand the dark themes, it’s still a fantastic game that holds up well and plays great for casuals just as much as it does for hardcore players.
I’ve played 2 and it’s amazing. check out the reissue. Diablo 3 was fun. That’s about it.
I will say playing as the witch doctor was amazing fun as you got to throw jars of bees at things.
You should give Path Of Exile a shot. It’s very much like Diablo, but it’s free to play (just pay for cosmetics).
PoE is a fantastic game but for beginners learning builds and stuff can be challenging, if you aren’t afrai of guides or just want to piddle around without one for free you can really learn what the Diablo series is like.
It’s been a while for me, but I never used a guide when I played. If anything, that took the fun right out of it for me, because it felt like in order to properly play the game, I first had to grind the game.
To each their own of course, but for me the most fun was when I first played the campaign and the whole story and settings /enemies was new. Playing through the campaign again and again on higher difficulties never could hold my interest for long. But I know that’s the main draw for a lot of players.
As a warning, this game is wildly complex. I played up to the first boss and kept getting wiped immediately even though I would handle the mobs in the area.
Also a lot of people feel that it’s more free-to-try rather than free-to-play because of the inventory restrictions in the later game. Every new in-game activity currency they bring out is more incentive for you to buy inventory tabs. So maybe $30 USD investment to properly experience the game later down the line. Still cheaper than full price Diablo 4 but definitely worth keeping in mind.
Also, if you dislike toxic gamers, consider turning off chat before you even start. I found myself put off the game by the tolerance of really bigoted things being said. Gameplay was fun, from what I remember…
I’ve personally only played Diablo 3, however I have put a couple hundred hours into it at this point. I would 100% recommend it, just be prepared for the urge to play it for hours on end!
I’ll throw my vote for Diablo 3. The game can be wicked addictive. I got the platinum trophy on PlayStation which was no quick feat. I just couldn’t stop playing. I would suggest choosing the Crusader to play as first. Super fun and has these flails that are specific weapons to his character. I had so much fun with the Akkhan armor set and the legendary flail called Fate of the Fell. Can take you well into the torment difficulty levels. Chef’s kiss of a game. I think people should really give it a chance if they like the Diablo style of game at all.
Diablo 2, 3, and 4 are all great for their own reasons. Diablo 3 and 4 are more streamlined. However, the music for all of them is great, stay a while in listen, especially in the main town, Tristram. Torchlight 2 is also a classic and it has the same music composer who did Diablo 2, so it’s also excellent. If you want a game with more class depth but it’s about halfway between Diablo and Path of Exile, check out Last Epoch on Steam. It should be out of early access later this year and it is a very special game.
I like to explore old games that are popular to see the development of the AI and such. From that perspective, it’s most definitely worth playing just to see the experience. The graphics of the earlier ones are not on par with modern games, but I doubt you expected that they would be:-). As for whether the process will be FUN ah… it actually very well might.
It does involve a LOT of grinding - so mod it if you want to cheat yourself of that portion of the experience? (there are game-state editors to like give yourself a bunch of EXP or some such) Forewarned is forearmed and all… Note that gear sets are almost impossible to collect for playing casually, at least they were originally iirc although I don’t know about any later releases.
Also there were expansion packs - like you could play D1 as a Monk and have access to additional levels. That was kinda fun:-), so maybe start right with those, as you can still play through the original classes on it (iirc).
It’s a LOT of resource management. Like as a mage fighting Diablo (the uh…end boss:-D), I’d literally make multiple trips down to the bottom and set out piles of potions on the ground, then do that again and also set additional piles further away. It isn’t like modern games - you could actually LOSE, as in tens of hours, all down the drain (I forget how saves were handled precisely but you could definitely get stuck with no way out). Note there’s a duplication trick in D1, so you can choose to abuse that if you want to make that aspect easier.
Also not all builds are viable in a single-player environment. I remember making a barbarian in D2 with a whirlwind crashing through huge hordes… but that makes it super tough to deal with “curses” that reflect enemy damage back onto you, and which iirc only appear in the final battle (against again Diablo), but blocks a necessary key to unlock him. I recall leading off each enemy individually away from the main one… and still had such enormous trouble fighting the guy doing the cursing that I started another account to have more fun, and I don’t think I ever went back:-). They may have done some re-balancing since then, I have no idea.
I gave it all up b/c it’s kinda dark. I like dark even but… damn, it’s just a lot, like that’s ALL that it is, no variety really. Hours and hours (and hours and hours) of just nothing but that gothic music (which I also like) and themes of torture (which I…don’t mind really). I unreservedly recommend D1 & 2 (never tried D3 but my brother loved it iirc) as an “experience” to try, but do be aware if you are sensitive to that kinda thing. D2 does have more variety at least - plains, desert, jungle, ruins, then you go to hell, literally. :-) It was great music too, for its time (or maybe just in general).
A lot of people don’t like Diablo 3, and I can see why if they loved D2. Frankly, D2 felt like I wasnt getting much of anywhere even though I beat the campaign and such. On the other hand, while much more colorful and flashy, D3 felt well adapted to grinding all night for better gear and build optimizing. I haven’t played either much lately, but would probably prefer 3…
I’ve been meaning to try the series for about 20 years now, and just pulled the plug on Diablo IV. I’ve only done a couple of quests but I’m really enjoying it so far.
The gameplay feels relatively basic at the moment, but I realise there’s probably a lot of complexity I’ve not revealed yet. For now I’m having a great time just hitting mobs, finding better gear and exploring the over world.
I’ve also picked up Diablo 1 from GOG and am enjoying that - it feels even simpler, but is a lot of fun. I’m using the DevilutionX port which adds a lot of modern features to the game.
I’m playing both games mostly on my Steam Deck, and they play really well with the gamepad controls. IV looks fantastic too. I do intend to play some on my PC though, I need to justify that graphics card I told my wife I needed…
PS: first post on BeeHaw, it’s nice here!
I’ve played them all, and I really like the feel of Diablo 2.
I tried Path of Exile, which sort of reminded me of Diablo 2, but the endgame loop was not for me.
Diablo IV is turning out to be surprisingly okay, and I’m curious where they’ll take it from here.
