• DominusOfMegadeus
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    11 months ago

    It’s amazing how little leverage they have when you stop using their products.

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      11 months ago

      More than you think. They are also actively seeking ways to make that leverage effect more people.

      They are defining web standards. They control chrome and chromium. So all of the alternative browsers that aren’t safari and Firefox are using Google’s web engine. Even Firefox and safari are beholden to Google as they fund both these web browsers through their default search deals.

      Google after many failed messaging apps has taken on RCS messaging. They provide most of the supporting infrastructure through their Jibe servers. They don’t allow anyone but themselves and Samsung to make an RCS app on android. They also had a campaign to pressure apple to use RCS. It’s likely apple’s RCS will be following Google’s Jibe service closely, as they’ve already said their will work with Google on this. Google successfully got most RCS messages going through their servers, with apple on board with RCS itll see most SMS messages defaulting to RCS and most of those going through Google.

      They also have deep hooks into education market with their OneDrive/Google docs products and Chromebooks.

      Most privacy focused android alternatives recommend Google hardware.

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          11 months ago

          It’s the most common way to contact people in the US

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            11 months ago

            I see. In Europe, everyone’s on Whatsapp, Telegram or even Signal, nobody uses sms :)

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              11 months ago

              I’ll call that an incorrect and generalizing statement. The adaptation of these apps differs a lot from country to country, and SMS is definitely not dead yet. Beside people still texting, it’s also being used for verification codes, order confirmations, postal tracking notices, scamming, phishing and so much more!

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                11 months ago

                Most of my personal communication goes through Signal, but I still get a ton of SMS messages.

                • 25% spam
                • 40% scams
                • 30% one time passwords for shitty sites/apps that don’t support better 2FA options
                • 5% iPhone users who refuse to install Signal

                Real useful stuff…

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          11 months ago

          I wish I could.

          I’ve tried for years to get people over to things like XMPP, which is cross platform since, well, forever.

          No dice.

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        11 months ago

        They are defining web standards. They control chrome and chromium. So all of the alternative browsers that aren’t safari and Firefox are using Google’s web engine. Even Firefox and safari are beholden to Google as they fund both these web browsers through their default search deals.

        🎶 I think I’ve seen this film before… 🎶

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        11 months ago

        Meh I think they might be overestimating their market position if that’s the strategy

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          I think they’re in a better position than Microsoft when they tried to make ActiveX and Silverlight a thing. They own the two most visited websites. On top of that, they own the most used web browser and the most used operating system (judged by web use).

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            11 months ago

            Their behavior is that of a monopolist.

            However, they are not selling food or shelter. There ways to defeat their OS, is custom Roms for now, etc.

            Other solutions will need to be developed but it seems we have some products being worked on as we speak but not mainstream ready.

            It don’t be easy fight but if people vote with their money and feet, we customer should win in the end. That is unless daddy Sam boxes us in, and mega corps deff lobbying for that too.