I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I didn’t vote.
In 2020 I voted for Trump because knew Biden would be bad. He has done better than I expected but the inflation is killing me and the focus on the wrong thing isn’t helping.
Early on I was a De Santis fan but my interest has waned as he has taken hard stances on things that need compromise.
Trump didn’t start those and the wars didn’t start under Trump. He was continuing conflicts that were already in play. The life expectancy was because of a pandemic and became worse under Biden. I don’t blame either of them for that. That’s partisan bs. The president isn’t in charge of drug addiction. That’s a state issue. The deaths were growing before Trump took office. Addicts are going to die. That’s life. I don’t see the value in spending a lot of money that’ll sort itself out. The riots were democrats rioting. Trump could have called up the military and didn’t. So you’re upset he didn’t use more force to quell the rebellion? That’s really what you’re complaining about ? Trump wasn’t able to control a virus? lol. Neither could Biden or Europe or rest of the world. It’s a virus. Maybe you haven’t read the constitution much but handling pandemics is a right of the states. So blaming Trump for your state failing is weird. I went back to active duty during the pandemic because of my skill set. We had to work with the states because that’s the law. The 10th amendment says if it’s not defined in the constitution then it’s a right of the state.
I didn’t say that he did, but you said we weren’t in conflict under Trump, and that’s false.
Trump did expand the conflicts in a number of theaters, resulting in the deaths of US servicemen; you just don’t remember noticing because he was responsible for so much domestic chaos, too.
There’s literally a Federal agency, reporting to the President, that regulates and interdicts drug traffic in the United States. The President literally is in charge of drug addiction.
You’re saying that Trump couldn’t possibly have won left-of-center votes?
Look, it strikes me that a politician - whose job is to build a popular consensus around a slate of policies and ideals - who winds up being absolutely hated by well over half of the American people, hated enough to take to the streets about it, can’t be said to be very good at the job.
There were three virus outbreaks during the Obama administration that you don’t even remember because rapid and effective action by the administration prevented them from being national pandemics. So actually not only could Biden, but Biden did. Trump sat on his own balls on his first one. That’s pretty bad! Trump was objectively bad at the job, there’s just no question about it once you move beyond special pleading (“it was a virus! Who could have predicted?!” lol) and excuse-making.
Did you really just tell a veteran he didn’t notice being deployed? lol.
No. The president is not. Once again that’s a state issue. The federal government is in charge of trying to stop the flow, monitoring pharmacies, etc. they’re not in charge of addiction or treatment.
None of them were handle by the government. They just burned out naturally and Zika is still around. Obama did nothing to stop the outbreak. They just ran their natural course.
I thought they are rioting over Floyd. Now you are saying it was an armed insurrection against Trump ?
Did you just tell a Federal public health researcher that public health isn’t a Federal responsibility? lol
Yes, but again, Trump didn’t succeed at these things either. Fentanyl from China flowed over the border and caused an ongoing crisis. Trafficking of drugs is a Federal, not state, crime. Trump’s DoJ should have had it in hand but under Trump, he had them spending more time on a fruitless wild goose chase for “corruption” in Mueller’s investigation instead of issues that actually affected Americans. Trump was incompetent.
They were all handled by the government.
There was no “Zika pandemic.” There also was no swine flu pandemic, SARS-1 pandemic, nor MERS pandemics in the United States. Oh, were those not the ones you were thinking of? Well, yes, that’s my point - you don’t remember them because they were objectively non-issues. They didn’t “burn out naturally”, they were actively and successfully stopped by rapid, effective public health action. I’m an expert in this field, remember?
If you think that’s true. Cite the law that gives the federal authority to take control form the states. I’d like to see the law citation as you’re the first person to make that claim.
And neither did Carter, Reagan, bush, Clinton, etc.
Can you cite the law that once again overrules the states? I’ve never seen nor heard that.
Sure, show me the vaccines.
You claim to be an expert but keep making claims that are false. I’ll see if you can cite these imaginary laws you claim.
USC 42 § 243
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3371787/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7172901/
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/public/vaccination_qa_pub.htm
Any other dumbshit questions?
If they’re “false” how are you so completely failing to refute them?
Let’s keep it civil at the least. Because I don’t think most people could cite the law that gives the federal government authority to take control from the states. Don’t use your knowledge to browbeat people.
Right, but I did.
Exactly. And I’m asking you not to criticize someone for being ignorant that such a law exists and can’t cite it. That’s all.
Otherwise, keep on keepin’ on.
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I didn’t say that it does. What it does is grant overriding authority to the Secretary take whatever actions are in the interests of public health under the condition that there’s a public health emergency. States retain their authority but the Federal government has superseding authority because it’s the Federal government.
It’s in the exact part you quoted - “the Secretary may take such actions to implement” a plan of control of any disease or condition, or to end any public health emergency or problem.
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It doesn’t. If you read down further, you will see the law is about ports of entry.
The states run their one pandemic show. It’s why we have all the different rules. In parts of Missouri no masks were required. In other areas masks were required. Ironically, the areas without masks did better than those with masks.
Chicago required masks when you were outside. Oregon the same, most other states did not.
I think people didn’t see COVID as a threat like the Democrats wanted them to see it. That is why people pushed back.
Had it been an Ebola outbreak on the same scale, I think people would have tried to be compliant.
When you look at the mortality rate of COVID, it was tiny. If you caught it, the chances of you dying were very slim unless you were old or had other medical issues.
Personally, I ignored everything Faucci said and stuck with my training. I didn’t catch COVID until last year; it was a minor case.
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SARS and mers were never an issue. As you are aware mers was never even used in the Middle East since it vanished before it could be trialed. My trip was cancelled for that reason. There was nothing to test.
Did you actually read the law? It states exactly what I said.
The feds provide assistance. They do not control it. That’s done at a state level. It’s why each state had different rules and the feds couldn’t do anything about it. They could only out rules on trains/planes and federal facilities.
It’s why Florida had lax rules and New York had strict rules.
It’s why I wa recalled since this is what I did for twenty years in the army as a medical officer.
Did you? It empowers the Federal government to take steps to control outbreaks of infectious disease, and to take other measures supportive of public health, and delegates these powers to the particular Federal agencies that have this responsibility including the Public Health Service.
Yes, that’s my point. That’s what successful interdiction of infectious disease looks like. Prevention is 9/10ths of a cure, remember?
When you worked as a medical officer in the Army were you required to have state involvement to treat a patient? No, right? Was your medical license issued by any US state? Not until you left the Army, right?
The Federal government has its own public health authority, and that authority had been successfully used by previous Presidents to prevent infectious pandemics. Trump failed to follow suit because he was a totally incompetent executive, which I’ve proved and you no longer even attempt to dispute.
It allows them to advise the states. That isn’t authority over a pandemic. That isn’t even close. If you worked in the field you’d know the states have the authority. The Feds can’t force action on states. That’s why Trump never did.
Yes my medical license was issued by a state. All medical personal in the army have to have a state license. It just doesn’t have to be from the state they are in. The federal government doesn’t issue medical licenses.
Mers died out in its own. The flu expanded and died out natural. It’s what they do.
I was going to deploy for the Mers vaccine and then it was all cancelled because it went away.
I think you are trying to give the federal government authority they don’t have. They just don’t.
Now maybe we will agree on this. I think the federal government should have the authority to set a standard. 50 states and x number of territories doing their own thing is stupid when people can easily cross the border. Back in the day I lived less than from a mile from another state. If I walked a block I was in another state. Hypothetically they could have the exact opposite rules. That’s stupid.
I’m all for state rights but once it’s on a pandemic level. The Feds should have authority.
Maybe you know this but the government can force to vaccinate but that’s a slippery slope. During the revolution they use the army to force quarantine. I don’t know it being done since and while I don’t like the idea of it, I do think in a serious pandemic it should be considered. COVID to me wasn’t the test case for it.
Funny how you have to resort to citing blatant garbage that far exceeds the constitutionally granted powers of the federal government.
Lol, what I cited was the US Code, but I’m sure you’ve never heard of it.
Take it up with the Supreme Court, loser
Hey crash, please don’t call people names. It’s undignified.
Why should I care what they say? They defend government overreach 24/7.