• rekabis@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    When a sudden lack of privileges feels like oppression.

    Other groups are having that recognition to normalize acceptance, to push back at being shamed and attacked. The straights have had no such history, they have always been held up as the standard accepted default state. For them to have any sort of “pride” is to punch down to other oppressed groups.

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      It’s never been socially shameful to be straight, therefore “straight pride” is generally seen for what it is: purely a bad-faith reaction to LGBTQ+ pride statements. Same for “all/blue lives matter”.

      The people who post stuff like this probably know that, but it makes them feel clever I guess.

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        This right here. It’s okay to be proud of your heritage and your community, even if you are a cis het white male in middle America. It would be unfair for people to try to take that away from you.

        However, we all know when someone posts this it’s not really about pride in their community. It’s rage bait in the hopes of discrediting a minority group and that’s just hateful.

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      Privileges? Nobody just lets me have things. I have to work, and I only settle for ownership of what I have and use, no ‘permission we can take away whenever’. Privilege is a completely fucked concept used entirely for manipulation.

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        I’m not sure what dictionary you’ve been looking at, but that’s not what privilege means, and it’s clearly not how the OP was using it.

        Hint: the definition of privilege is not “when I get stuff for free and nothing bad ever happens to me”.

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        Nobody just lets me have things

        You and other cishet white guys have, for hundreds of years, had things that others didn’t. You’ve never been told you aren’t allowed to marry the person you love, you’ve never had to protest and riot for your right to vote, you don’t have people constantly in your DMs saying that actually, you aren’t the gender that you are

        Maybe nobody just lets you have things, but also nobody tries to deny you basic rights. Less than 20 years ago, 49 out of the 50 United States did not allow same sex marriage. It wasn’t until 2015 that every state was forced to recognize its legitimacy, and the present supreme court may very likely overturn that decision and allow states to ban it again. Unless you’re less than 8 years old, don’t act like you’ve never had privileges that were denied to other people based on your sexuality.

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          You’re wrong about literally all of those things, and what anyone had in the past doesn’t matter today.

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            Source??? On me being wrong about literally any of this??? Are there people out here telling cis men that they’re actually women? Did Texas recognize gay marriage in 2003? Did the supreme court not rule that states can’t ban gay marriage in 2015?