• kindenough@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Listening to people talk esoteric bs is labor.

    “It’s your fault it does not work, you don’t believe! You are not in the know!”

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      1 year ago

      Kinda true though. The world you witness is filtered through your subconscious to turn raw data into concepts your conscious mind can deal with: book, car, chair, dog, etc. That’s why optical illusions work, your mind gets used to interpreting the raw data a certain way, and that can be cleverly exploited to make your conscious mind see things that weren’t in the raw data. “Belief” is just loading up a new subroutine to your subconscious to filter for something you value. But if you don’t really convince yourself, it won’t stick. You can’t just ask your subconscious nicely to do things, it’s to “dumb” for that. You have to imprint with rituals and such to strengthen associations.

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        1 year ago

        I learned this by doing a lot of acid in high school.

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          1 year ago

          I learned this by reading a great deal of interesting literature, but lots of acid certainly helped to experientially solidify the principle.

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            1 year ago

            Same. I was reading a lot of Wade Davis and “doors of perception” type stuff at the time.

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              1 year ago

              Robert Anton Wilson can claim the largest single portion of the credit for me

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                1 year ago

                I ended up reading a bunch of Philip K Dick and stopped doing hallucinogens. Thinking about it now the timing was probably related lol.