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Christian Science does not agree with the theory that morals grow out of people’s behavior. It stands firmly on the ground that morals for mankind are derived from the divine Mind, God, and that they are therefore ageless. Morally right behavior pertaining to sex was revealed by Moses.

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      11 months ago

      Lmao, your ignorance about this subject shows immediately.

      Padre Pio was considered a scammer by the Catholic church itself and was also found to be a fraud when visited by the doctors sent by the pope to determine if the scars he showed to his followers were of divine origin. When analysed the doctors found that they were most likely self inflicted wounds (there’s also the testimony of a pharmacist who sold this con man some carbolic acid) and that he was putting forward a show for his followers, so much so that he was denied the right to celebrate mass for his schemes. It was John Paul the 2nd who canonized him in 2002 because he realized that if he wanted the support of the gullible people in southern Italy he would have needed to give them something in return; and so he did, by making him a saint against the better judgment of Benedict the 15th and of Pio the 11th, the popes who lived during his times and who barred him from celebrating mass.

      I’d love to give you some references to educate you but unfortunately most of the material is in Italian language and your ignorance prevents you from accessing it.

      Padre Pio did not invent the microscope but he was able to create a cult worshipping his image in lieu of god, a sin which should be very grave according to the Christian faith tenets

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          https://it.cathopedia.org/wiki/San_Pio_da_Pietrelcina

          Is cathopedia catholic enough for you?

          You are as ignorant as adamant in your ignorance so I don’t think this will make any difference for your bigoted mindset but still it’s funny to see you squirm while trying to justify your position.

          I used the popes version of the story just because they should be considered the highest authority by people like you. If they did decide something that should be the law for all Catholics or are you suggesting you have more authority than the popes who lived during padre Pio’s time?

          Catholics do worship images, have you ever heard of so called “holy cards”? Italy is full of it and in Pietrelcina there’s a very profitable business running around them.

          When something miraculous begins, it has to be investigated.

          Three lines under this statement

          He lived in a monastery. You don’t need a doctor to declare it was a fraud if it was really a fraud.

          You really can’t make any sense, do you?

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              https://www.amazon.it/artigianale-ricevi-SANTINI-RELIGIOSI-PREGHIERA/dp/B07DBNXTP2

              Just 12 euros for a set of “santini” with dedicated prayers on the back! Hurry up, stock is low and gullible people are abound!

              He refused to be visited by a doctor designated by the sant’Uffizio because he knew he would have been found a con. He was reinstated by people living well beyond his time and unable to corroborate or contradict his statements so it bear no weight in defining whether his wounds were of divine origin or not.

              When exumed from his tomb his body presented the normal state of decay a cadaver should be at after 40 years.

              He was a con man who had the luck to be born when the catholic church needed a con man to recover a bit of the influence it was losing due to people better education and he was used by the church itself exactly for this scope.

              The same goes for the three poor children who were taken advantage of by the church with their story about Mary appearance. So far all the profecies related to their tale have been proven unfounded, will there ever be a time when Christians will wake up from their fever dreams and start acting as normal humans in social environments? Only time will tell

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                  11 months ago

                  Sure buddy, whatever you say.

                  By the way, going outside and touch grass is a much better choice than watching an image of Jesus or a bare wall but there are many other options at your disposal, such as DnD, music, art, sports, literature or any other passtime you maybe believe to be satanic or whatever. Don’t throw your only chance at life away following something you can’t see or prove it’s there

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          Look at the mental damage religion has done to you. You believe “your source” over empirical evidence?

          How weak.

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              Oh yeah and yesterday evening I have had a great sex encounter with both Mary Magdalene and Eve. They did very nice things to my cock and I did enjoy every minute with them.

              Don’t believe me? It was a miracle, I don’t have to provide you with any proof and you cannot argue it didn’t happen

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                  Lmao, my speech is already not pervasion as this word does not exist.

                  In my opinion you should seek help from a good shrink but I know you won’t and I accept you the way you are.

                  Still going to counterargument all your points because religion is fake and a scam to poor, uneducated people but I would not dare to strip you of your right to be conned