Bill Donohue This is the most joyful time of the year, especially for Christians. It is not a good time for dogmatic secularists, many of whom are deeply unhappy. If anything, Christmas brings out the worst in them. Take Freedom From Religion Foundation. The radical atheists paid well
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 months ago

    First of all, I didn’t downvote you. Please do not accuse me of doing things I didn’t do.

    Secondly, the U.S. is majority Christian. How would that marginalize the holiday? Do you really think making Christmas more religious would somehow stop people buying presents for each other and listening to Christmas music?

    • ZeusbottomEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Secondly, the U.S. is majority Christian. How would that marginalize the holiday?

      Proponents of putting more religion in Christmas seem to eschew so much commercialism.

      Do you really think making Christmas more religious would somehow stop people buying presents for each other and listening to Christmas music?

      Of course not. The Christmas economic juggernaut won’t stop for anything at all. There’s way too much cash flow at stake. Most people still believe in gods and ghosts and jolly gift givers, so most will never become atheists or abandon the tradition. At the same time the “put Christ into Christmas” lot will never reach critical mass because the numbers of the truly faithful and deep-pocketed are dwindling.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 months ago

        At the same time the “put Christ into Christmas” lot will never reach critical mass because the numbers of the truly faithful and deep-pocketed are dwindling.

        Oh good, so I have to wait for them to reach “critical mass” for them to stop treating me like shit because I don’t celebrate their holiday? I doubt it.

        Not having a critical mass hasn’t stopped Christians so far from telling me things like my people killed Jesus and that I should just lighten up and celebrate their holiday because they once sang a dreidel song. And I don’t mean just random Christians who found out my lineage either. I mean things like my school teachers.

        I may be an atheist, but I’m also a Jew. I was raised without celebrating Christmas. I have been given shit for it by religious Christians my entire life. All making Christmas more Christian will do is make it worse for people like me.

        I am so fucking tired of being othered in this country for not being part of the Christian majority. It’s happened for all 46 years of my life and it’s getting worse all the time.

        • ZeusbottomEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Oh good, so I have to wait for them to reach “critical mass” for them to stop treating me like shit because I don’t celebrate their holiday?

          My point was that I do not seriously believe that supporting them will lead to a better outcome. I’m sorry to see that you felt attacked.

          I have left this community as a result of this thread, so I hope you will find peace in that.

      • SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 months ago

        At the same time the “put Christ into Christmas” lot will never reach critical mass because the numbers of the truly faithful and deep-pocketed are dwindling.

        Fortunately for us, as the truly faithful “put Christ into Christmas” lot are the ones calling for removing our rights and building a theocracy.