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    The same F-16s that were outclassed by the J-17 in recent military exercises?

    Pakistani pilots are on record saying the F-16 is worse in basically every way compared to a design China considers to be “budget” and “outdated.”

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      Let’s pretend for a minute that it is actually better. Russia doesn’t field the J-17, so it doesn’t matter.

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        Also, there’s the airframe and then there are the missiles you put on it. Depending on what these F-16 load up with can make a whole lot of difference.

        I doubt they’ll be doing much dogfighting. The challenge will be to get in the air, fire off missiles, and land back without getting shot down.

        Edit: Oh and another thing that makes a lot of difference is radar assets. I bet those F-16s are going to get extended eyes and ears thanks to NATO AWACS flying high but within NATO borders.

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        China recognizes that the J-17 is outclassed by the Su-34, so it sort of does matter…

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        And yet it would still have been cheaper to send Ukraine new J-17s than used F-16s.

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          If China was willing to do send them J-17s, I’m sure Ukraine would take them up on it.

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      Uh source?

      JF-17 is a multirole attack aircraft, F-16 is a multirole air superiority fighter.

      PAF has been very adamant that nothing they have tried compares to the F-16 in performance. Their last air skirmish was an F-16 that shot down an IAF MiG-21 in 2019. Even the J-10s they recently bought are still considered inferior.

      The real joke here is expecting an F-16 to actually reach Ukraine lmao. Pakistan had to basically play double agent to convince the USA to even open F-16 sales. There’s a 0% chance they’re going to give Ukraine F-16s for free, or even let them be leased from other countries.

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      The f16 is also a design the US considers budget and outdated. They’ve got the f15, f22 and f35 a b and c that are all better.

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      The same F-16s that were outclassed by the J-17 in recent military exercises?

      I mean, even if that’s true… Is that really even a flex? The F-16 platform is 30 years older than the J-17.