• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    As a practically pragmatic question, countries die all the time, why is this one so important? It’s clear that even the Arab world hates Palestinians, so it’s not like anyone in the region actually cares about them. Seems like having Gaza, stomped under Israel’s foot but alive, is more beneficial for the anti Israel nations, than a free and happy Palestinian people.

    Even Europe refuses to take any Palestinian refugees cause they don’t want them in their country, but they all pretend to care.

    Anyways, so many countries died out in the last 150 years, it doesn’t seem like that rare of a thing.

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      “It’s not that rare” /=/ “We shouldn’t care”

      ffs I didn’t think “Genocide is bad” was such a fucking controversial point of view anymore.

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        Genocide IS bad, calling every war a genocide doesn’t make it so however.

        If you’re American, your country did worse to my people, so maybe we should string up your people.

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          Genocide IS bad, calling every war a genocide doesn’t make it so however.

          If you’re American, your country did worse to my people, so maybe we should string up your people.

          “Maybe we should care about genocide?”

          “Maybe we should commit genocide on YOUR people!”

          Yes, very good rebuttal.

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            I’m just sick of Americans trying to play the moral high ground, while they bathe in the blood of my people and enjoy the wealth they stole. In any case, your country is the one propping up Israel and this war, so get off your high horse

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              “God, I’m so sick of people trying to be better, don’t they understand that they should just pick evil and stick to it?”

              Very mature viewpoint. As expected from someone who suggested lynching Americans as a response to a suggestion that genocide is bad.

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                Funny how to Americans, only a decade or two is enough time to wash your hands of an atrocity you committed in your own backyard and tell the person you victimized, to essentially move on and forget it, in favor of whatever atrocity is happening on the other side of the planet.

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                    I sure as heck am not genociding anyone. But my people were genocided, and nobody gave a shit. And if you’re American and white, I think you’re on my land and should leave my continent, but I’m supposed to just accept it, and accept your moral grand standing while you do nothing to actually help.

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      It’s because we’re currently witnessing genocide. Usually even if the country goes away the people stay. When that’s not the case we usually call it genocide or ethnic cleansing, and these are not things we should just watch.

      Also to be clear, Arab leaders don’t care about Palestinians. The people very much do care.

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        I’ve never met Arab leadership, but the Arab people I know from work and my building, despise Palestinians. (I live in a heavily Arab neighborhood). There’s definitely an old cultural grudge there, kinda like how Slavic countries all hate each other without really knowing why.

        I think the rest of the world is helping in this genocide if that’s what’s happening, since like I said, the people who want out aren’t being taken by anyone. Refugees from all nations are taken willingly enough by most Western nations, but they don’t want anything to do with Palestinian refugees

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          Maybe it depends on the Arabs? This is very much not the case in Egypt, but it could be the case somewhere in the Arabian Peninsula.

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            ??? Egyptians HATE, Palestinians. They’re not even welcome in the country, they’ve never been granted status despite loads movement over the years. Egypt didn’t even want Gaza when Israel gave it to them, they said no thanks to a free strip of coastline because they don’t want the headache that comes with the people who live there. Jordan… even worse.

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      This shit is wild, like how can people really not see how the policies of Netanyahu’s administration makes Jewish people around the world (including inside Israel proper) less safe?