• Kecessa
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    If you prefer to hang around racists, fascists, misogynists, science deniers and say it’s better than hanging with the people at the opposing end because at the opposing end they believe in that one thing you disagree with then no, you don’t deserve any consideration.

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      I wonder how many such descriptions republicans have for you, and how many reasons to not hangout with you they create, as you do now. How about treat people for who they are, don’t group into tribes and move everything to the extremes? Not everything is as black and white as you’d like to believe. Not every democrat is a good guy, and not every republican is a bad guy.

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          There is always an adage, warning or “paradox” to explain everything. I’ve heard the “penny wise, pound foolish” right after the exact opposite saying which was basically “who doesn’t save a penny, doesn’t have a pound”.

          The “nazi bar” is basically a slippery slope fallacy. First of all, not every republican is a nazi, just as not every democrat is violent antifa. All it is, is as I mentioned - tribalism to dehumanize “the other” to simplify a worldview. You don’t win votes by dehumanizing people.

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            Name me one elected Democrat that could be considered an antifa.

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              Anyone that is anti facism is antifa, by the definition of the word. Also “dance for me monkey” much?

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                You seem to think being against fascism is a bad thing. That is why people are calling you a fascist.

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                  No, I am against calling every republican / conservative a fascist. Just as I am against calling every democrat “violent antifa”. In your post, you exhibit the exact same thing I am talking about in this thread - reducing a person to “fascist”. Especially for stating such simple claims as “don’t divide into shitty tribes”.

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                    The difference being that Republicans actually have a candidate (their main candidate in fact) saying that he’ll be a dictator for a day and they have elected people supporting him.

                    Meanwhile the Democrats are all right of center by the standards of any other western democracy and none of them are far left or promoting totalitarianism or other extremist ideals that are associated with what people talk about when they mention “antifa”.

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            If you aren’t anti fascist you’re pro _______

            Fill in the blank with the correct answer

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              “pro bubblegum”. What’s with you and demanding to fill stupid blanks, name democrats to bring everything to an absolute?

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            Crazy how quickly someone who refutes generalizations and tries to avoid a polarized view of politics can be considered a fascist in some circles.

            The decline of democracy and the rise of fascism might be a big menace in the contemporary world, but the fact that it’s becoming impossible to express a nuanced opinion is not far behind.

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        The thing is theirs are always misrepresentations outright lies or propaganda. Whereas Democrats at least, and I am not a Democrat, tend to be based in reality and facts largely.

        The best and only defense for Republicans/ conservatives ever have. Is that “sure. Our policies always focus on and hurt minorities and out groups explicitly. But that doesn’t make us bigoted against them.” Despite it actually making them bigoted against them.