Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

  • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    So you can make jokes about only certain groups of people without being an “asshole” wouldn’t that make the other groups protected?

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      11 months ago

      “Don’t kick puppies.”

      “Oh, so dogs are ABOVE me?!”

      Protected is not the angle you’re bitching about.

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          11 months ago

          Incorrect. You are explicitly complaining that a backlash for talking shit about people cannot mean they are “a group below you.”

          But suddenly you understand that groups being protected is a different thing. Hmm. Maybe you should apply that to the original context, instead of needing someone to point out the absurdity with paraphrased mockery.

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              11 months ago

              It’s punching down.

              You can figure this out on your own. I believe in you.

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                11 months ago

                So it’s barely related to the point and was made so a counter argument could easily knock over the point? That sounds like a straw man to me.

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                  11 months ago

                  It’s a demonstration by metaphor of how your argument is dishonest horseshit.

                  As explained twice now.

                  Do you actually give a shit about what words mean, or are you just clinging to something you can bitch about as if that makes your original jibe less stupid? Because again - you know what a protected group is. You introduced the concept, in this exchange. You can figure out how backlash for attacking a protected group does not magically imply they they are ‘above you.’

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                    11 months ago

                    It still makes your counter argument a straw man argument. Your anger about it won’t change that fact.

                    If you read closely you’ll see I made the claim that protected groups are not below you. There’s a slight but important difference to your straw man where you said that a puppy is above you.