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  • BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The difference being a team of 10 high up administrators took 1 hour to write each of the messages regarding the child.

    Active shooter? Good luck getting ANY credible info until after police have killed them. IC, EOC, Unified Command all have to get together and push out the same message.

    As others have said, there’s a reason why you wait for verified information through proper channels.

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      11 months ago

      How about “If you’re around [TownName], get to shelter; people are being shot”?

      They don’t need long for an earthquake, then they shouldn’t need long for a situation where people have already started dying.

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        11 months ago

        … because PDF Warning: 1/2 of active shooter scenarios are over in 5 minutes. Like earthquakes, we don’t get warning minutes before the event because of seismometers and +$100,000,000 in detection and automated warning systems. With easily verifiable information and buildings built to resist them.

        If you’re at a university, they’re required to have mass alert systems. They also know their community and can push it to the people who were smart enough to give their college their actual phone number rather than some random shit or not bother to update it when they changed their number.

        Everyone else though? Good luck dropping a geofenced 911 alert with actually relevant information besides what people should already know. Run, Hide, Fight. It’s literally all that’s sent out in any of those college emergency alerts. MAYBE a hall location/area if they got non-panicked lucky info with someone calling Security instead of 911.

        After action reports, and debriefs are easily available for most of these events if you want to read them. The FBI and DHS have a LOT of info too.

        https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2022-042623.pdf/view

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            11 months ago

            I don’t think you understand how infrequent mass shooters are. Nor how predictable lol.

            Are you quoting the timeline? Is the alert ready system something unique to Canadia? Does it geofence? Who needs to approve it? How does 911 or equivalent contact them. Do they have it? Do you need supervisor approval? Is your supervisor even there or is he shitting? Half your recent 911 calls in the last 5 minutes have hung up after 20 seconds. Most of them just screaming. Can you triangulate? Do you hang up? Are your other coworkers getting calls too or did you get the only person who had their phone in class because they didn’t let their teacher take it?

            Life is vastly more intricate and complicated than any of you think in serious situations.

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              11 months ago

              During the hours and hours that the mass shooting took place, they could have used the Alert Ready system. The process to send out an Amber Alert is often measured in minutes rather than hours, which makes sense – the process was designed to disseminate information as quickly as possible