Gay’s resignation — just six months and two days into the presidency — comes amid growing allegations of plagiarism and lasting doubts over her ability to respond to antisemitism on campus after her disastrous congressional testimony Dec. 5.

Gay weathered scandal after scandal over her brief tenure, facing national backlash for her administration’s response to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack and allegations of plagiarism in her scholarly work.

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    The people she supposedly plagiarized all agree that the technical nature of what she was summarizing wouldn’t make it plagiarism.

    I don’t think that’s correct. I haven’t looked at the full list of people who were supposedly plagiarized, but at least one of them, Dr. Carol Swain, was calling for Dr. Claudine Gay to be fired.

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      This Carol Swain? Yeah, no, it has nothing to do with plagiarism, it has to do with Swain being pro-ethnic cleansing and is mad that Claudine Gay didn’t expel all Palestinian students or some other extreme action to show loyalty to Israel.

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      I know your argument is of semantics but I’d say it’s not relevant either way. The determination should be done by objective third parties.

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          The same third party board that said she didn’t commit plagiarism while also forcing her to add dozens of missing citations to her work where she directly copied sentences from other articles… Which makes absolutely no sense.

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            It makes perfect sense. Negligence is not the same as attempting to pass off someone else’s ideas as your own. The third party boards that reviewed her work found that she didn’t properly cite those definitions from the sources, not that she was trying to pass off what those definitions were as definitions that she, herself, came up with.

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              It very clearly wasn’t negligence- she cited plenty of other sources in her work that she didn’t copy word for word. She only left out the ones that she quite directly copied language from and did so on multiple occasions.

              The review board let her off easy, giving her the benefit of doubt towards her intentions because she was the esteemed president of the university.

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                That’s just simply not true. All of the quotes are word for word, whether they’re cited or not. That’s what makes them quotes. The quotes that weren’t cited were written in summaries of technical descriptions for ideas where even the people she quoted agreed that she didn’t plagiarize. Saying the review board let her off is while ignoring the actual authors (with one notable, political exception) means you think there’s some sort of conspiracy here and that’s just not something anyone should take seriously.

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                  So if your definition of a quotation is something written word for word, whether it is cited or even at all distinguishable from her own work (read them yourself, they very clearly aren’t distinguishable at all), what do you call something where she very clearly doesn’t copy the original text word for word but instead rewrites it to better fit in with her own prose without ever citing it? Maybe something like changing:

                  “…the statistical correspondence of the demographic characteristics and more “substantive representation,” the correspondence between representatives’ goals and those of their constituents.”

                  to

                  "…the statistical correspondence of demographic characteristics) and substantive representation (the correspondence of legislative goals and priorities…”

                  It’s not a conspiracy theory to suggest that the review board might’ve treated her differently from any random undergraduate because of her status within academia. That’s just human nature, it doesn’t even require intent to do so.

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                    So you’re going to ignore the fact that the people she cited didn’t think it was plagiarism either. Again, the difference is in whether or not the quotation used was intended to be passed off as the author’s own words which, in those cases, clearly weren’t since they were in technical summaries and accompanying visualizations that were different from the original context. Saying “the definition of x is y and z” without citing the dictionary is negligence. It’s not plagiarism.

                    If what you’re describing isn’t a conspiracy theory then it’s also not a conspiracy theory to point out that no other former President of Harvard has had the same type of scrutiny brought against them and that she’s being treated differently because of her status, right?

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      While that is true, I don’t think she actually addressed the substance of the plagiarism claims. She just issued a blanket statement calling for her to be fired.