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    I’d love to see Season 4 happen because Season 3 was some of the best recent space SciFi made. Certainly beats the piss out of whatever the hell Star Trek Picard Seasons 1 and 2 were…or basically all of Discovery.

    At least I have Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds to look forward to.

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    The word is that he hogs the writing for the show. This is the main reason for no season 4.

    Meanwhile, Disney want to show to go back to the season 1 format of a joke every minute. I’m not a fan of the painful jokes from season 1.

    Production for the show was also painfully slow to the point where some of the actors were living on ramen noodles.

    It’s not going to happen

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      Season 1 was Family Guy Star Trek. It was okay but as I kept with it, they dropped some of the humor in favor of more dramatic issues. I enjoyed the later seasons but if they circle back to season 1, then they may as well just cancel it.

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        That’s where I’m at. I groaned at most jokes in season 1. If season 4 is like that… Cancel it!

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        Eh, one of the weaker episodes in my book.

        It was missing a b-plot, which is a big no-no in writing Star Trek. It focusses too much on one story, instead of interweaving multiple.

        The message was okay though.

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    I think they finally got the humor/drama ratio right for Season 3, I would be really happy to get a Season 4+ if they are going to maintain that sort of approach.

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    Thank god! I’ve been a fan since it was announced way back when. For Christmas this year, my sister-in-law bought me “The World of Orville” and the physical collection of the comics, as she knew I bought the digital ones.

    I very much look forward to another season!

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      If you read the article it’s pretty clear that he is in denial of a dying project. The other actors are tired of him faffing about and are doing other projects. Even if it lives another season its not going to be good.

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      Yes, please. Season 3 was horrendous. It’s just full of tropes and downright idiotic decisions in every episode I could get through.

      Just stop while you’re “at the top”, like Stargate.

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        Stargate?

        You mean the show that kept going by replacing the main cast?

        I liked it all but they wrung every possible episode out and then released a couple of movies.

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          There is not going to be (a season 11 of Stargate SG-1) on U.S. television. Our contract with MGM prohibits it. It’s done a great job, rejuvenated with the additions of Ben, Claudia, and Beau, but we think we’ve come to the end of those stories. We really felt like it was the right time to segue out, for the show not to overstay its welcome.

          https://www.cbr.com/why-stargate-sg-1-ended-canceled/

          I’m glad they stopped Stargate SG-1 where they did and didn’t pull a Marvel on it. Stargate Atlantis was OK, but not as good as Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Universe was crap. The new Stargate about finding the Stargate was just crap and I doubt anybody involved in the original SG-1 series was actually involved.

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            SGU really picked up in the second season and a third season would have been great

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              There was way too much shouting in that show for my taste. The pudgy genius who figured out how to get on the ship was annoying as all hell. And the dumb factions they made on the ship “me strong me should be in power!”, “me brainy, me should be in power!”, “me shout louder, ME SHOULD BE IN POWER!”. So much unnecessary drama. You could really see the evolution from SG-1, to Atlantis, to Universe how they relied more and more on drama to stay interesting.

              I’m glad they ended it as IMO, it was a failed execution of a great idea.

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            I liked SG-1 but I found that Atlantis did have a bit more long-term direction in some ways.

            SG-U… just started a bit too rough for me

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        Just stop while you’re “at the top”, like Stargate.

        Yeah because I remember Universe being really successful

        The above it was sarcastic in case it wasn’t apparent

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    It’s such a great series. It’s a shame it wasn’t popular enough to keep momentum. I hope we get another season

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      Supposedly a lot of the issues come from Seth demanding to be the lead writer for every single episode. It bogs down production, because one person simply can’t crank out scripts fast enough to keep up. So a lot of the actors have been stuck in contracts without actually being able to work, because they’re just waiting on the script writing to be finished.

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      The third season is best. They moved away from pure Star Trek parody, into actual Star Trek, with a tiny bit of silliness sometimes.

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        I disagree, someone needed to force MacFarlane to cut about 20% off of each episode in S3, they were all way too long.

        I think Season 2 had the right ratio of humor to seriousness

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          Honestly, while I liked the season, I agree they were all a bit too long, and often had odd pacing. Still love the show though.

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          Maybe you’d have a better time of it if the bottom half of your TV was a 30 second loop of someone playing Subway Surfers.

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            Have you heard the expression “If I had more time I would have written you a shorter letter”?

            Good writers respect the readers time.

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        Big big disagree with you there homie. McFarlane felt WAY out of his element when Orville switched to a purely serious motif. I couldn’t finish the season which killed me because I had such high hopes. Every single character felt like they were in the passive aggressive cold shoulder portion of a marriage fight. Honestly couldn’t give a shit if it comes back for a fourth season.

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          For me, I think the thing holding the Orville back the most is honestly Seth as the captain. I feel the same way about just McFarlane specifically. I know it’s his passion project and he wants to be the star trek captain, and I get that, right there with ya, but I feel like it’s his character kinda pulling the other characters in a specific way that kinda ruins the attempt at a serious vibe sometimes.

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        I imagine it must have gotten a lot better, as I didn’t enjoy the few episodes I watched. I may just dislike watching Seth act though.

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    I would be happy for a fourth season, but I didn’t much appreciate the third. Better production, though, so bonus points.

    Second season was pretty brilliant in its balance. Also, third season misses a lot of the banter between crew members, which I sorely missed :(

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    It’s been a little while since I watched it, but didn’t it kind of wrap up last season? I kinda just assumed they were done.

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      The last season had two ending episodes, one to wrap things up so the show could stop there and one to open the door to more things to come.

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    When the show was what Star Trek would be with real people, it was great. When they made it all about the little no-neck blonde prodigy, it became a chore to finish. It’s too far gone to come back, but please give me a new grungy Star Trek.

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        Just grossed out by him being in a position of great power on the show and driving one actor off the set early in the run due to their ended relationship and installing his new girlfriend in a prominent role in season 3. Makes it worse that he has DiCaprio syndrome. It wreaks of old Hollywood Weinstein abuses of power.

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          It’s a rumored relationship (never confirmed) and if the rumors are true the dates don’t match, the relationship would have ended after she left.

          Try again!

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            What does that even mean? He only dates people he has power over? Who work for him?

            He dated Halston Sage. Whether or not he forced her out is a different question.

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      If you didn’t make it past the first few episodes, it’s totally understandable, but each one in the season gets better than the last

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        I made it through the middle of the 3rd season just because i was using it as mindless tv, and i completely disagree. It started off bad, stayed at that level for the first season or two, and then tanked and became straight garbage.

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      I’m an old Trekkie and I’ve liked a lot of Trek fanfic over the years, but I never had much of a taste for his quest to do Trek with enough of the serial numbers filed off and enough bro jokes about dicks and beer forced in to keep it classifiable as “parody” and therefore lawyer-proof.

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      I personally enjoy the implied sexual abuse as women MacFarlane is dating appear and then disappear from the show once he’s done with them. It really gets my starship engines going.

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          I don’t care about upvotes, dude’s just creepy and uses power dynamics to influence partners. If I cared about upvotes, I’d have posted my own comment, ya doof.

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    I am unable to understand if this person is lgbt friendly or not. I love The Orville, all 3 season, but it is like the hooker rape sketch in A Million Way To Die In The West. I can’t tell of he’s supportive or mocking

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      Based on what I’ve seen him say in a personal context, he’s supportive.

      At the same time he also subscribes to the “everything is allowed in comedy” mindset, where a joke doesn’t need to have any merit outside of getting a laugh out of an audience.

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      I highly doubt the transgender alien child forced to convert for the sake of conformity to their culture was just a bit played for laughs.

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        Yeah this arc is one adding to my confusion. It can be very supportive, but it is ambigous at the same time.

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      He’s a comedian. Until they explicitly express an opinion every controversial topic is simultaneously supported and not supported to allow for maximum joke potential.

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      Its better that hes not preachy about it. Its why the Orville is better trek than nutrek. Not as good as TNG/DS9/Voy, but better than nutrek.