This is in Brooklyn, New York.

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    Keep in mind that NYC doesn’t actually have much of a choice - there’s a “right to shelter” here which requires the city to provide these migrants a safe place to stay. If they city doesn’t, it’s going to be in clear violation of the law. The mayor wants to suspend this policy but my understanding is that that effort is currently mired in court.

    Then, aside from the legal requirements, there’s the simple fact that the migrants are already in the city. Maybe not having a right to shelter policy in the past would have dissuaded them from coming, but it’s too late for that. I don’t think it would be decent to leave them exposed to a winter storm, even if that means motivating more to arrive.

    Ultimately this is an issue the federal government will have to deal with. Cities can’t address the root cause of it. IMO the people of the entire USA (or rather their representatives) should established a federal program for either sheltering and integrating migrants or keeping them out. Letting them in and leaving state and local governments to deal with them is a dereliction of federal authority, whether those state and local governments are in Texas or in New York.

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      Keep in mind that NYC doesn’t actually have much of a choice - there’s a “right to shelter” here which requires the city to provide these migrants a safe place to stay.

      Sounds like NYC has an easy choice. End their nonsense right to shelter

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        They can’t just choose to do that. The lawsuit that led to the establishment of this policy involved the plaintiffs successfully arguing that the New York state constitution guarantees a right to shelter (see Callahan v. Carey). How the mayor’s attempt to suspend the policy would work in that context is beyond my understanding of the law.

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          Pull a page from Andrew Jacksons book. The court can decide whatever it wants. It has Jack shit in the way of enforcing it. They can suspend the policy, and just tell the courts to go fuck themselves. It’s not like these migrant bums could afford to challenge it anyway

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      The city can put the illegals somewhere else besides a school, they could hang out with the turtles in abandoned subway stations. Use municipal buildings, the abandoned Spofford Juvenile Jail, rikers island is closed or closing. Instead the city decided these kids don’t need an education.

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      11 months ago

      Keep in mind that NYC doesn’t actually have much of a choice - there’s a “right to shelter” here which requires the city to provide these migrants a safe place to stay

      Can’t they just house them in the jew tunnels instead of schools?

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      11 months ago

      From my understanding, the rule is posts must confirm the biases of right wing Americans, but comments can be anything as long as they’re not trolling or aggressive.

      I’ll just let you know that I’ve never got any flack from posting here, even though I’m not conservative. In contrast, someone cross posted an article about a Canadian being arrested to the conservative community on sh.itjust.works. I posted a comment there and was instantly banned for life by its mod because it wasn’t conservative.

      I give props to the mods of this community for putting up with the constant downvotes and rebuttals and not just handing out lifetime bans to anyone who disagrees.

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        I posted a comment there and was instantly banned for life by its mod because it wasn’t conservative.

        You were banned for spouting garbage misinformation. You’re perfectly allowed to give your opinion so long as it’s based on reality and not just crappy propaganda

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    I honestly feel bad for the kids caught in the crossfire. Kids don’t learn as much when virtual learning. Biden, Adams, and all these pro-illegal-immigrant politicians are stealing these kids futures, and it just isn’t fair to the kids.

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            Does “dishonest argumentation” involve making false statements?

            I’m going to guess no, because if they were lying the article would be about then lying.

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            11 months ago

            100% of the videos on climate change or energy are based on lies, which is easily inferred by the fact that the continue to support using fossil fuels and expanding their production.

            That, and Prager"U" is funded by the oil lobby.

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              Which lies are they based on? Are they lies that can be actually written here, as evidence this isn’t all just being made up?

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                  Ugh. I upvoted you because you provided something more specific than anyone else. But you still made zero effort to actually point me at an answer. So I did it myself.

                  In that video, Mr Beat only makes two claims about PragerU’s Michell making false claims.

                  ##1: He chastises her for trying to pack the 500,000 number she mentions for Diversity Visa Lottery into the 1,000,000 per year number.

                  In Beats’s video, there is a clip of her saying:

                  In that same timeframe, nearly half a million more people came to America through the Diversity Visa Lottery". The next clip is him saying:

                  There you go again. No, you don’t get to count those immigrants quadrice

                  But she wasn’t trying to count them twice. She wasn’t even talking about the 1,000,000 per year number at all. That was from a different part of her video.

                  What she actually says, in the context of the video he’s trying to debunk, is this:

                  From 2008 to 2017, the U.S. gave green cards to well over a million people for humanitarian reasons, allowing them to live and work here permanently. After five years, they can apply for full citizenship. We’re not done yet. In that same time frame, nearly half a million more people came to American through the Diversity Visa Lottery

                  Back in Beats’s video, he says:

                  Oh and plus, the numbers he gives is actually for ten years

                  With his tone he implies that she gave some time frame other than 10 years.

                  ##2: He claims she gave false info about the requirements to qualify for the Divesity Visa Lottery.

                  This one is straightforward. He quotes he as saying:

                  Diversity visa applications don’t need a high school education, job skills, or pretty much anything.

                  He responds:

                  Yeah that’s bull crap. Diversity visa applicants absolutely do need to have at least a high school education OR at least two years of work experience in a job that requires at least two years of training or experience.

                  I checked this one and Mr Beats is right. The Diversity Visa program requirements include either having graduated high school, or two years working in a job with SVP score at least 7.

                  For example, a city bus driver job has SVP of 4-6, and a commercial airlilne pilot has an SVP rating of 6-7. So basically, a commercial airline pilot might not qualify for the Diversity Visa program.

                  So yes people this is how you get things done. This is a specific false claim made by PragerU:

                  Diversity visa applicants don’t need a high school education, job skills, or pretty much anything.

                  FALSE

                  Next time would you mind doing a little of the legwork for me please? I can’t do everything around here.