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    Also, ‘Negro’ isn’t the N word. Capital N Negro was the preferred term for decades, up until the Malcolm X era.

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        It just means black indeed, the color

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          Nah in my language and Spanish at the very least it refers to a person

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            It can refer to a person when you treat the adjective as a noun, but it is really just the color. Like you can say a black person. That does not mean that black refers to a person, it means that, in this particular context, you are modifying the person noun.

            I’m not sure if in English you can do this, but in Spanish (my language), you can say something like “Pass me the knife” “Which knife?” “The black” (I think English needs a “one” added, as in, “the black one”)

            In Spanish, it would just be “Pasame el cuchillo” “¿Qué cuchillo?” “El negro”.

            So, negro is just the color black, but it has come to refer as well to black people. But it still is the colour. https://dle.rae.es/negro

            You can see that 4 and 5 refer to black people and their related culture, but still, it’s because of the colour.

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      He also forced his people to go back to work in the plantations or in the army under pain of death. The Poles got real lucky that they got classified as honorary blacks, too, because he ordered a genocide of all white people.

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        The country kept its slaves and the country was involved in a genocide of its native population, basically almost like Washington and America.😊

        That and it depends on your belief if he’s justified for the genocide or not as a nice case of… what did that clown say? Ah, yes: “You get what you fucking deserve!”

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          Does that justify murdering almost every single Frenchman and Frenchwoman?

          He did not care if they owned slaves or not. He did not care what their opinion on Tainos was. He killed them all.

          Off-topic, but the residents of Hispaniola did a whole lot more than you folks up North. You still have natives. We don’t.

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    10 months ago

    Ah, so that’s where the Lemmy dev’s screen name comes from. Neat.

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      Turns out the left was just disrespecting his cultural heritage SMH my head

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      Politics and culture have more weight than pure geography. Haiti is better described as part of the Caribbean, which like the Pacific Islands, is almost it’s own thing. Geographically, it’s more North than South American, but that distinction isn’t useful for understanding it. The Americas can be broken down into the zones of Central, North, South, and the Caribbean. Culturally, it can best be divided in two as English America and Latin America. The traditional North vs South line betrays how the US and Canada relate to every other American country.

      I wish we legally recognized overlap with our geographic categorization. Eastern Europe overlaps with both Europe and Asia. North and South America overlap in Central America and the Caribbean. The Middle East overlaps with Asia, Africa, Western Europe, and Eastern Europe. Regions really aren’t exclusive.

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      Napoleon sent polish troops to fight a slave rebellion, poles declared they were supposed to fight for freedom not against it and changed sides.