• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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    In a primary, should I vote for the person I want to win who couldn’t possibly win the general election because I’m a weirdo, or the one that everyone says has the best chances to beat the evil fascists? Oh, and what if everyone says I want the fascists to win if I vote for the weirdo?

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      The primary is when you should vote for candidates you can think about liking. The general is the time for lesser of two evils nonsense.

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        Yep, I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries. In the general, I voted for the candidate he endorsed. In November, I’ll be voting for his endorsed candidate again.

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          I feel like that endorsement practically came at gunpoint. Biden is a staunch republican compared to bernie. I’ll be voting green on principle unless by some miracle a actual decent candidate enters into this one.

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        But what if by campaigning for the one I like I undercut support for the other one in the general, and therefore cause the greater of two evils to be elected?

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          You can switch who you campaign for after the nominee is selected.

          Why even have a primary if everyone is going to be too afraid to vote for anyone but the most popular candidate? The primaries also serve to inform the nominees and party leadership what policy positions matter to the members. The votes for less popular candidates represent voters who the nominees have to win over before the general election. That can lead to policy changes. For example, I doubt Biden would have championed student loan forgiveness if Sanders hadn’t gotten so many primary votes. If you don’t vote according to your actual preferences it just reinforces the status quo.

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          If you’re really worried about this, then vote in the primaries the same way you would in the general, so you don’t have any doubts.

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              Voting is a choice. What do you mean?

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                  You must live a privileged life to think that the right to vote is coercion.

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        and that is the thinking that got us Trump vs Biden twice in a row with some states not wanting one or the other on the ballots further limiting choices

        and this also got us the baby steps that got roe overturned and the thinking that helped us not get the police under control and reformed and so on

        dream small, get small

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      I think you’re supposed to stay home for the primary, then loudly complain about the nominees.

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        No you’re supposed to cast a vote that doesn’t count and have the superdelegates fuck your shit up.

        Then you are supposed to be super surprised that Clinton lost to Trump. And fucked up the government for at least the next 12 years.

        Sorry, am I still bitter about that?

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    So democrats are having actual primaries? No? This it’s just gloating that we’re stuck with Biden?

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        They occasionally have real people text you instead of a robot and those conversations can be fun

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          IIRC due to the Can SPAM Act they can’t use robo-txting. There has to be another person on the other end.

          It doesn’t stop the ones that are already doing illegal shit, but it stops the legit PACs that don’t want millions in fines.

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      There are DNC candidates like Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson. Maybe Cenk Uygur who was born in Turkey so…not actually a valid candidate. He was a Republican 20 years or so ago, so it makes sense that he wouldn’t think that the Constitution applies to him.

      I had to look it up because I had no idea because the DNC (as in the organization itself) has been asleep at the wheel as usual favoring one candidate.

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    BLUE WAVE CLEANING POWER REMOVES STUBBORN ORANGE STAINS

    Funny, that’s the exact opposite of what I’d like to see in Canada.