“It’s almost a cruel joke on the electorate that the longest presidential election potentially ever might also be the one that they’re least excited about,” said one Democratic pollster, speaking anonymously to candidly discuss the race.

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    The only thing similar about them is that the electorate doesn’t want them. Oh, and they’re both older than former president Bill Clinton, who has been out of office for 25 years now.

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      I want Biden. And he won The New Hampshire primary without even being on the ballot.

      I think this “the electorate doesn’t want him” shit is made up or refers only to people who don’t understand or know about the positive consequences of Biden administration policies, repeating vapid, empty headlines

      It’s repeated too often with zero evidence outside of ludicrous polls to be given any merit.

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        The anti Biden noise is basically leftist idealists who would rather spend their time fighting other leftists than the alt right, and Russian bots.

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          Come on, are we really going to pretend that being in your 80s is ideal for a president? At age 81 the probability of dying in any given year is more than 7 percent, reaching more than 10 percent at the end of his presidency at age 85. Let’s not even mention the risk of mental decline. What do we do exactly, if Biden goes the way of Feinstein (incapacitated but unwilling to leave office)?

          He’s miles better than the alternative, but it remains a very risky choice. I fear what will happen if Dems need to use the 14th amendment to remove him from office.

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            These are good points. Problem is that he’s basically the only other choice and arguing about whether or not to vote for him only helps Trump right now. I would absolutely vote for someone other than Biden if I thought it would do any good, but it won’t. Like it or not we have a two party system in the US so it’s Biden or Trump right now.

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              This is why the primary shouldn’t have been rigged for him to be the nominee, and one reason he should have stepped aside. Biden currently polls worse than Trump, but do you know who polls higher than Trump? Undeclared Democrat. Biden filled his role and did his job well, but it’s time for him to move on. It’s a lot like how RBG should have retired and moved on when the timing was right instead of letting her legacy get completely undone.

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          Agree, and conservative trolls who want to spread whatever dissent they can since they have no leg to stand on and no viable candidate

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          It’s the people paying attention to the polls and seeing Biden losing in key states while undeclared Democrat wins. Bidens biggest weakness isn’t if he is too moderate or liberal. It’s that he is too old. There are voters now that weren’t even alive during the Clinton presidency, yet Bill Clinton is younger than Biden… Biden can win primaries, but can he win the actual swing voters in the swing states that actually matter? Polling right now suggests no. There is still a lot of time, but time has only been Biden’s enemy so far.

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            They’re both too old to run and a comedy reel of gaffes could easily be produced for both.

            Any attack on Biden’s age that doesn’t include an attack on Trumps age is ridiculous.

            As far as the polls, It’s up to Biden’s campaign, court cases, and the ability of the mainstream to get people to the voting booths. Swapping out candidates now is suicide.

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              Any attack on Biden’s age that doesn’t include an attack on Trumps age is ridiculous.

              I agree. They’re both too old. But the polls show the biggest reason voters don’t want to vote for Biden is his age.

              As far as the polls, It’s up to Biden’s campaign, court cases, and the ability of the mainstream to get people to the voting booths. Swapping out candidates now is suicide.

              It’s kind of suicide either way at this point. Relying on informed voters is not a winning strategy.