• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I’m generally anti us military action and I don’t want this to turn into a war again, but this really does feel like a fuck around and find out situation. US troops have been killed and strikes have continued against our ships.

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        And not just our ships, but global trade ships. A blatant attempt to disrupt the global economy, which much of the world relies on the world’s largest navy to protect.

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        Just make israel stop the genocide. Houthis weren’t attacking before things got so unhinged. But no. Asshole is paving the way for trumps fascist takeover.

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          Houthis weren’t attacking before things got so unhinged.

          You think the Houthis are innocent babes? You should look into the war crimes they’ve committed. Maybe get a translation of the slogan they’ve had for decades “Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews.” They’re antisemitic psychopaths.

          Be a little more careful in choosing your allies, ok?

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            I’m sorry, but you’re conflating a boring statement, saying that they weren’t attacking western ships, with support.

            Fuck you, zionist scum. I want an end to the genocide in Palestine. That’s my only end. You’re either dishonest or stupid.

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              Yeah I’m not Jewish. I used to think a Jewish state wasn’t necessary to provide a safe haven for Jews for times when antisemitism rises in the cycle that’s been happening for centuries. Not that I was against there being a Jewish state, just didn’t think it was an imperative. Antisemitism isn’t going to come back, not after we’ve all seen the horrors of the holocaust.

              Comments like yours have convinced me that yeah, there actually does need to be a Jewish state.

              I’m not even Jewish but you’re throwing slurs at me because of incorrect assumptions you’re making based out of hatred. Israelis don’t need to prove the necessity of a Jewish state. Your hatred proves it.

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                Zionism is not Judaism. Zionism requires a(n apartheid) Jewish state. Judaism does not.

                Jews don’t need their own state, you fucking shitbag. Yes, there is antisemitism and it’s wrong. Do you think every minority deserves to wipe out other minorities to have their own state? They don’t. Everyone deserves to live freely wherever they are.

                Zionism is shit. Judaism is religion. I hate religion, but not Jews. Get fucked.

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      putting military bases outsude your borders all over the planet should come with significant risks

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        Yeah when we ask the government of that place, and they say yes, we should then feel free to do that.

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          The US “asks”

          Look at the ruins left all over that region to see what happens to countries that don’t cooperate.

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            They get overrun by the local threats the USA may have been able to help with? I mean, there’s obviously nuance here, but you aren’t using it either so

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              Don’t waste your time. This user has gems like:

              Liberals in America are just right wing anti-communists, they’re not leftists at all. As for Bernie, social-democracy is the moderate wing of fascism and that’s why he supports Biden’s genocide.

              Both parties are evil because this is an evil country that must be stopped.

              But I’m quite serious about hating America. No one should be president and we should do everything possible to make that a reality.

              And told me that Russia is less corrupt and authoritarian than the USA. They ran away from that conversation once facts were laid out.

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                Liberals in America are just right wing anti-communists, they’re not leftists at all.

                This is factually true

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                  The Democratic Party covers a range from supporters of European-style Social Democracy (Sanders, Cortez, etc.) to the moderate center-right. The former is definitely part of the leftist spectrum. They would be at least slightly left of the center in Europe and most definitely are by American standards.

                  The fact that there aren’t any noteworthy Communist politicians in the US isn’t all that surprising given that America wasn’t exactly receptive to this ideology for most of its history and that the the whole Marxist Leninist world revolution ended up being a rather embarrassing failure. Arbitrarily claiming that anyone who is anti-communist, which is hardly an unreasonable position, can’t be leftist is just absurd.

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                    You have just explained Chomsky’s limits on the spectrum of acceptable opinion. Most of these Democrats are fiscally moderate at best and foreign policy aligns quite closely with US interests. Every single one is McCarthy levels of fervently anti-communist.

                    When every single senator and Congress member vote to agree on the defense budget, I can’t take you seriously when you speak about the ‘diversity’ of Democrats.

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                Actually I went to work and your post required too much to respond during a bathroom break.

                I’ll get to you this afternoon!

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                Honestly tho. ISIS was born in Abu Graib, a US run prison. The Taliban was a reaction to the warlords the US funded in the war against the USSR. Hamas has been funded by Israel, a US supported ally, for years. All the alternatives to Hamas in Gaza were suppressed. And this is just the middle east. The same pattern is repeated in South America and East Asia.

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        Do they put them wherever they want, or in coordination with the local sovereign governments?