• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m convinced most people still don’t understand what “all cops are bastards” actually means.

    “bUt My UnClE/dAd/BrOtHeR/fRiEnD iS a CoP” Yeah, now imagine how many situations where they had to bite their tongue and look away because interfering would lose their job.

    Even the “good” cops aren’t really good because even if they try to stop other cops from being bad they’ll be punished. Being a cop is just being in a govt sanctioned gang.

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          10 months ago

          Society. And more than just the police. It’s not the people in the police, it’s the society that makes them like that. ACAB makes it sound like the police exist in a vacuum where the politicians and businesses and media and vitersthat create this situation don’t exist.

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            10 months ago

            I’m a part of society and I haven’t made cops “like that”.

            They were like that decades before I was born.

            • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              Society doesn’t effect anyone because I’m part of society and I didn’t make them like that

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          10 months ago

          No but what really is helpful is having a slogan that prompts misunderstanding and division every time you use it.

          How the fuck can being clear be “unhelpful circlejerkibg”?

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            10 months ago

            It’s no secret that the system is shit. We all are victims of capitalism. And it IS traumatizing. However, if half of all retail workers started engaging in corruption and race based violence, we’d say ARWAB. It’s already been established in legalese that police are “agents of the state” and that their only purpose is to protect capital and capital owners. Anyone who thinks that joining the police force is going to help them give back to their community are naive idiots. ACAB.

            • kaffiene@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              If retail workers started engaging in violence I wouldn’t imagine that all retail workers had suddenly become bastards, I would ask wtf is going on systemically to create that outcome.

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                10 months ago

                All cops use violence to enforce unjust laws. They do it willingly. It’s not that some are violent - ACAB is a reference to bastardry being a necessary trait of someone that becomes a cop.

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                  10 months ago

                  IMO, at best, it identifies a symptom of the issue that requires change. Look, i don’t agree with you about the optics and helpfulness of ACAB but I agree with you that police are a major problem in the US and I’d welcome reform.

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                    10 months ago

                    It rolls of the tongue a bit nicer than:

                    “We must dismantle the Prison & Military Industrial Complex and divert those funds into Educating, Feeding, and Housing the working class!”