Dr. Denobulan (or whatever his name was) was my 3rd fav character. Too bad he’s so one-dimensional. Pretty great acting, though. Phlox, that was the dude. He was pretty good. But I maintain my original assertion. Edit, yes, I’ll add Shran to my list of pretty outstanding Enterprise characters. But the show is still Trip & T’Pol.
No love for archer? I felt he did a solid job too. The really forgettable ones are mr. Black helmsman who has I think one? Episode about him, and british soldier boy who always appears to be an appendix to archer or trip.
Yeah I tend to agree. Archer lacked a “signature personality” the rest of The Captains had. (Picard: the impenetrable diplomat, Kirk: the fuckboi, Janeway: the rogue)
However one could argue those captains had precedent to have charismatic virtues: they had 100s of years of Federation success backing them up. Maybe Archer being a “boy scout” was the right man for the job, because if he failed it wasn’t just his ship that would fail but the entirety of Starfleet. So everything he had to do was “by the book”. Picard or Sisko never really had that kind of pressure.
That being said Archer definitely had “I fuck missionary while saluting the Starfleet flag” vibe to him lmao.
I can see where you’re coming from considering him a Boy Scout, but in my opinion he had a solid character arc from naive and somewhat clueless, to cynical and gritty during the loathed xindi arc, and then to seasoned mediator during the last season.
Which would then have eventually led to him becoming actively “evil” from starfleets perspective by taking on the role of future guy who commands the suliban in the past. Certainly a colorful character arc I would say.
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Yeah, but citing Jeffrey Combs characters is just cheating.
God I loved Shran. Easily the best plotline of ENT, and really cool way to establish the Andorians as a signing member of The Federation.
Dr. Denobulan (or whatever his name was) was my 3rd fav character. Too bad he’s so one-dimensional. Pretty great acting, though. Phlox, that was the dude. He was pretty good. But I maintain my original assertion. Edit, yes, I’ll add Shran to my list of pretty outstanding Enterprise characters. But the show is still Trip & T’Pol.
No love for archer? I felt he did a solid job too. The really forgettable ones are mr. Black helmsman who has I think one? Episode about him, and british soldier boy who always appears to be an appendix to archer or trip.
Meh. Archer faded into the background. He was inoffensive and unremarkable.
Yeah I tend to agree. Archer lacked a “signature personality” the rest of The Captains had. (Picard: the impenetrable diplomat, Kirk: the fuckboi, Janeway: the rogue)
However one could argue those captains had precedent to have charismatic virtues: they had 100s of years of Federation success backing them up. Maybe Archer being a “boy scout” was the right man for the job, because if he failed it wasn’t just his ship that would fail but the entirety of Starfleet. So everything he had to do was “by the book”. Picard or Sisko never really had that kind of pressure.
That being said Archer definitely had “I fuck missionary while saluting the Starfleet flag” vibe to him lmao.
Archer wrote the book, so whatever he did was necessarily “by the book” by definition.
I can see where you’re coming from considering him a Boy Scout, but in my opinion he had a solid character arc from naive and somewhat clueless, to cynical and gritty during the loathed xindi arc, and then to seasoned mediator during the last season.
Which would then have eventually led to him becoming actively “evil” from starfleets perspective by taking on the role of future guy who commands the suliban in the past. Certainly a colorful character arc I would say.
I loved Shran!