• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    FFS I literally use this all the fuckin time

    God fuckin damnit Google

    What’s next, are you going to kill Gmail‽

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                  9 months ago

                  Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site’s https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won’t ever pull this trick though because it’ll irreversibly damage their reputation.

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                9 months ago

                I think they wouldn’t do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

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                  9 months ago

                  The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers,

                  Yes that would be the purpose.

                  but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

                  I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven’t done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so.

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          9 months ago

          It’s too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now.

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            9 months ago

            Joke’s on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH).

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              9 months ago

              DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices.

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        9 months ago

        Yes, and it works better. They said over a year ago that wallet would replace GPay, and remind you that it will stop working basically anytime you open it. I’m all for shitting on Google but being upset over this is dumb.

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          9 months ago

          Why don’t they upgrade the original product rather than create a new one? Answer: fucking laziness

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            9 months ago

            Ironically enough, they actually are going back to the old product, it WAS Google wallet prior to gpay

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          9 months ago

          But isn’t wallet only for tap to pay? I use Google pay to send and receive money between my friends and family literally all the time. Reading the email Google sent me, they only talk about tap to pay still working on wallet.

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            9 months ago

            Idk I’ve never used it for anything other than tap to pay, and that was also true for gpay. I personally would recommend you use something that doesn’t farm your data for transferring money anyway. Zelle is what most people prefer these days, usually goes straight through your bank, no separate app, not invasive, more secure.

            Venmo and cash app are trash (especially Venmo) but they are alternatives that work for sending money and have been around way longer than GPay. I still use Venmo for a few things for my parents and father in law.

            GPay had tons of bloat to it which I didn’t like. I don’t want Google tracking my spending and tailoring “offers” for me, and I definitely don’t want them sending me notifications about it. I’m not delusional, I know they’re still tracking it and still sending it to advertisers but at least wallet isn’t shoving my face in it.

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          9 months ago

          I have 8 bucks in Google Kajigger, is it moving to the new thing? Do I have to sort out how to move it around? I’m think I had it all hooked up to a bank at one point. Maybe it was a friend that sent me money?

          I think I used it to pay for Dunkin Donuts, but both apps list Dunkin Donuts, can I just use the money there?

          That’s why this is all so annoying, I have to figure out this whole process, old and new, just for 8 bucks.

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            9 months ago

            That’s all well and good and fair, but this isn’t new news is more my point. Google told everyone, every device, that they were switching to wallet and phasing out GPay over a year ago, in fact I’m almost positive it was when Android 13 released (we are on 14 now). Like the annoyance should’ve passed by now, you know?

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          9 months ago

          Use your bank. Stop giving the world’s largest advertising company more data about you.

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            9 months ago

            US citizens using their bank account to transfer fund to each other [impossible]

            This is because sharing bank account and routing number is not safe for many US banks which may allow unauthorized party to pull money from the account. Banks in the rest of the world typically operate in “push” only so they don’t have this issue.

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              9 months ago

              I still use a payment system called “cash”.

              It may not be cool or trendy, but the system has never had a server outage or network failure.

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                9 months ago

                I still use a payment system called “cash”.

                I can’t find that app in the play store? Where can I download it?

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                9 months ago

                Which contains your account number and routing number, which allows the recipient’s bank to “pull” funds from your bank account.

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            9 months ago

            At the time I started using Google Pay, existing and being from a company I had heard of. Not to mention on Android it was just there for you to use, you didn’t have to download another app.

            My roommate and I considered using PayPal but his PayPal account got locked and to this day a decade later, never unlocked.

            I’m going to be looking into both Venmo and Zelle now though.

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            9 months ago

            what’s the benefit of Google Pay for you over Venmo or Zelle?

            It works internationally.

            Those other 2 are USA only

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            9 months ago

            Those other two are so frequently used for scams that my bank has a heart attack every time I try to use them. No matter how many times I call them and tell them to unblock my card, because it was definitely me sending that money, they’ll block it the very next time. I literally bought a checkbook (you have to buy those dumb things now?!) so I could more easily give people money… In 2023…

            Google pay worked for me reasonably well for small transactions between friends and family. That’s literally what I use it for 90% of the time. I’m super annoyed that they don’t have a replacement for it.

            Google strikes again, killing something I love.