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    ”But he’s always so nice to me and my friends and family, who are exclusively white, he’s never racist around them.”

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      Damn, that’s totally what she’d say. Excluding the whiteness part. She hasn’t reflected on that.

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        That’s my mom. She doesn’t really think about stuff like that at all. I still get bullied by my dad whenever I date black people or any POC and I’m well into my 20’s.

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          My dad had an underlying hate towards others when I was little but it mostly sizzled out by the time Obama was president (2008). 2024 it’s a kerosene fire. Oddly when I was younger he went on a rant about Jews, yet now he seems fine with Jewish people and just hates everyone else.

          Racism is back with a vengeance and media/news is promoting it.

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    My mom pretty much had an existential crisis over this when she made a friend at work and her husband turned out to be Trump supporter. And this is in Canada. It makes you wonder where girls like that even find guys like that.

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      When you’ve been conditioned all your life by society (and conservatives) to believe that your primary function is to be a baby factory, and you know you only have a finite amount of time to be a baby factory before you’re old and busted and cast aside, you do whatever you can to land someone stable enough to marry, regardless of their politics.

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      This is going to come as a shock to some folks but people don’t need to have the same politics to get along.

      My wife is more conservative than me. We don’t spend much time talking about politics and avoid being dicks to each other. When elections roll around we go to the polls and I’m sure cancel out each other’s votes for a bunch of candidates.

      When you and another person believe that there’s more to life than politics it’s easy to not get hung up on them when it comes to personal relationships. When you or the other person allow politics to dominate your life it isn’t.

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          Not to put too fine a point on it, but that’s exactly what I meant by letting politics dominate one’s life.

          I believe that a person’s morals and values can be assessed and expressed in a more meaningful way through their actions and words in day-to-day life than by looking at their political beliefs. In other words seeing how a person treats the people around them, how they handle adversity, and how they enjoy life matters more than making sure they agree with you on issues X,Y, and Z.

          Sometimes political beliefs do indicate core differences in values. A great example is differences in opinion on welfare policies. This indicates different ideas about the role personal responsibility vs the role outside forces play on people’s lives.

          My argument is that that sort of difference in ideals would become apparent very quickly without relying on political ideology to define it. Doing so shuts out any possibility of nuance and immediately turns slight differences of ideals and values into a larger, more hostile “us against them” issue. You’re not dealing with a person with a slightly different perspective anymore, you’re dealing with “the enemy”.

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    If these people are in your social circle it says more about you than “average” straight people.

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        The only person i know who isnt homophobic, racist and xenophobic is my sister

        I cant just not be able to talk to anyone

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          Where the hell are you (broadly speaking), because I’m in Tennessee (70% Trump 2020) and the only Republicans I have to deal with are family and work related.

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            I live in rural Georgia and in general I can say almost all of the people around me are pretty conservative, my coworkers even casually say typical Republican shit like how it’s sooo absurd that “white people can’t say the N word but black people can”, or how society has gone to shit with this more than 2 genders nonsense, or how taxes are the reason we’re all poor even though they’re managers being paid slightly above other states’ minimum wage at best (~$15.50/hr) and have to waste an absurd amount of money on healthcare & car stuff, or whatever. Even a lot of the queer people I know, stereotypical with dyed hair and all, say this EXACT same shit.

            I think everywhere outside of the major cities in this state are like this, those few civilized blue parts are the only ones keeping this place from collapsing… having days on my own in Savannah have been some of the best times of my life, I’m so used to be confined to this garbage rural suburbia surrounded by red that I truly envy people who live in cities… I’m planning to move to Chicago and hopefully it’s as good as Savannah, in terms of how nice it is to just walk around the city as well as the local establishments & events.

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        These people do exist all over the world, some are parents to users in this thread even!

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      Neither did I. I may still not understand it. But I googled salon article and found a site with that name that publishes progressive news and opinions. So I guess they are saying a lot of couples are opposite in opinion on these things. They might be joking about the one spouse being oblivious to their partners racism or having double standards or something.

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        They might be joking about the one spouse being oblivious to their partners racism or having double standards or something.

        Pretty much. I personally find it funny because I know one of these couples. It’s obviously not 1/3, but they do exist.

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        Sometimes the gal can be racist. My friends tried to hook me up with a cute lady who had an amazing accent. Turns out, she was south-african and very quickly let me know that ending apartheid was a mistake because “some people just can’t prepare for modern life”.

        Noped right the fuck out of setting up that date.

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        Which is ironic because this is just another form of prejudism against heteros. Heterophobia?

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          Only if you think being hetero means racist. Says more about you than anyone else.

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            I’m a little confused.

            If I said a 3rd of gay men are racists, I would expect most people to consider this homophobic.

            I would expect the same to apply to heteros. We’re all people here.

            Maybe I’ve misunderstood something, and maybe the above isn’t true?

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              You’re absolutely right. The comic above is absolutely prejudiced, it’s just targeting a group that’s seen as more privileged, and thus “punching up” and so it’s ok. BS is what it is.

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            Sure sure. So if I made a post essentially saying 1 in 3 black men are violent, it’s only racist if you believe black men are violent. Says more about you than anyone else.

            Hopefully you can see why that doesn’t work.

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            Hate is hate. Probably better to just be a nice person than to preach prejudism, no matter who it’s aimed at

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                It’s a shame “the golden rule” was already taken. You’ve summed up so many ideologies!

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                  We could go with the rusted rule. Pyrite (fool’s gold) rule. There are some options.

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      I think the point is that she’s a nice person in general and he’s a very racist POS.

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      It’s funny because it’s soooo true!
      In fact in MY suburbs, you see it in FIVE out of every FOUR hetero couples! Now waddaya think of that, huh?

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    That’s not the look of a bigot, it’s the look of a man who’s fed up with low-rent posturing clickbait. The look of someone who got a Salon article entitled What your household’s toothpaste preferences say about White Fragility™ that he knows will be paygated or cookienoticed after two seconds’ scrolling.

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    For some reason I’m reminded of a local house that flies both the Confederate and Pride flags.

    They aren’t mutually exclusive flags, so I have to wonder if it is one opinion, or many.

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      Could also be someone flying the flags because they think it’s a funny thing to do, entirely unrelated to the political statement.

      Which I guess is a political statement in itself.

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        I certainly found it funny as fuck, my thought process was “ugh, a bigoted cun-wait???”

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            I’m gay and I’ve lived in SLC for almost 65 years, and let me tell you - gay people are among the MOST bigoted. They think they are very accepting, but the truth is, most of them reject anyone who doesn’t fit their idea about what a gay male should be. If you look like a twink or you aren’t a certain way, you get shunned here completely. It’s really nasty to see.

            But, the truth is, all human beings are bigoted. We have to be, we’re wired up that way. We are wired to want to only hang out with certain people and reject others, and see other people as inferior in almost every situation. It’s sort of a survival mechanism from primitive days, and it’s part of who we are as a species.

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        Most people were not very accepting of “different” people back then, but maybe it was just not talked about. There were a ton of “confirmed bachelors” and plenty of women had “roommates”.

        People in the North and South were not different. The North had a ton of racists who didn’t want to fight and die for “colored people”. There was a huge riot in NYC of people who didn’t want to be drafted. They killed black people they found for no reason.

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          I think the Union’s stake in the civil war was more about federal supremacy over the United States (which obviously goes without question in a federal system). Ending slavery was just a function of that goal. I say this as someone who grew up in the southwest and is wholly committed to the authority of the federal government over individual states because that is obviously the system outlined in the constitution.

          Of course “The North” was just as racist and still is just as shitty and racist as every other part of this country.

          P.S. “The South” can suck it as a name, I propose a better title for former confederate states: The Losers (since it seems a certain demographic therein needs reminding).

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            Sure, the North wanted consolidation. Of course the only reason the south seceded was because the federation said no more slaves

            Many of the people in the North were as racist as the South, but the government was less so

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          A huge part of that riot was the Irish who were fresh off the boat from the potato famine and we’re not pleased that they had escaped one hell and we’re going to be drafted to a war they didn’t care about.

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        Salon.com has nothing to do with racism either. It’s just a known progressive news website they’re referencing to imply they have opposing political views.

        Blunt version: straight male bad, conservative = racist

        I’m actually kind of curious how you’re interpreting this comic though

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          How do you know the guy is a conservative? The image mentions nothing about politics

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            Their opposing political views are implied by the salon article-sharing progressive woman vs. straight white conservative man. He’s a cartoon man in a single comic panel. If they’re not relying on stereotypes here I’m gonna need the joke explained to me

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              I see a woman tolerant of racism while denying it and a racist man. The conservative part I’m guessing you extrapolated by the thought that it is a regressive trait and therefore more likely to be a conservative?

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              There are implied political signals, but nothing overtly political. I’m not even attributing racism to conservatism. I wouldn’t trust a couple that matches the one in the comic to be up-to-date on the political landscape.

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                The juxtaposition is the entire point of the comic though, right? I wouldn’t describe salon.com as a racial news site if I had to pick 1 adjective. If she had a BLM t-shirt or something maybe we could ignore politics

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                  Yeah, it is political, when your politics come down to “woke” vs “antiwoke”.

                  I’m starting to understand why today’s “conservatives” see a brutal dictator like putin as a hero. It doesn’t matter what he does, since he is “antiwoke”.

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      Nah, progressive racism is well meaning misguided white savior sort of shit, like “if we cut welfare all the black people will starve!”