I mean… Recoiling in horror sounds a little bit like Woman Bad tm had something to do with it.
Being gender curious (or having Gender Imposter Syndrome) is a sign you’re not entirely 100% SuperCis, but people’s emotional reactions be complicated yo
Edit: As others said, there’s also the “take unverifiable drugs from someone (friend or not) in a bar setting”. And the “the post uses hyperbole for effect because memes”.
Well yeah fair enough. I posted this because I read it as hyperbole but I could be wrong. I just felt like this kind of represented the idea that the act of questioning your identity isn’t an indicator of your “actual” identity. It just shows that you’re open to understanding yourself better.
If I were better with words I could explain my thought process better but the best I can do is communicate in memes.
It’s possible, but cis men who are totally comfortable may have never even considered it what so ever. So the recoiling can also be from the very prospect of questioning something that they’ve never had an inkling to question. Introspection on a deep existential level is a little scary, after all, so tapping a new vein regardless of what comes out can be off-putting.
True. I’m not trans, I feel ambivalent about my gender but I certainly don’t think I’d recoil in horror. Probably just say no thanks. I don’t take anything that isn’t prescribed for me or won’t actively interfere with the cocktail of meds I need to take for a chronic illness.
I’m a pretty laid-back person, but I’d likely recoil. It’s the idea of someone threatening me with a pill at a pub that might be kinda triggering. Nearly any other reasonable approach in any other situation, I’d be willing to have a conversation and consider the options.
No one was threatened though. It was a group of friends and I presume the person with the tablets told them what it was and offered them to try it. For someone who says they’re laid back you used quite an emotive word (threatened) to misconstrue the described situation.
You take that back! I’m the most laid back person ever!
But yup, you’re probably right. A) I definitely chose the wrong word with “threatened” and should have been more deliberate in my choice with something like “tried to prove a point to me by offering me prescription drugs” and B) For the life of me, I don’t remember typing “I’m a pretty laid-back person,” I meant to say “I’m often told I’m a pretty laid-back person” but must have slipped my mind while I was getting dressed to go to the park. (Joke’s on you, VaultBoyNewVegas, I was Pooh Bearing it when I wrote my comment!)
Anyway, short reply long: I read your comment and was like, “what’s this person talking about? I know I’m not laid back.” You’re right and I mistyped. I’m often told I’m a pretty laid back person, but I don’t agree with it one bit. I’ve got too many suicide attempts in my past and too many mind-altering prescriptions for me to label myself as “laid-back.” Sorry for the confusion and semi-sorry for making you read this long-ass comment, if you made it this far.
I think you’re reading into it a bit much. If you offered your mates an antidepressant in the pub (that they didn’t need) there’s a good chance they would react the same way right? There’s nothing wrong with antidepressants but taking strong medication when you don’t need it won’t do you any good.
To me, it sounds plausible in a way that’s more than just “woman” bad.
Using myself as illustration, I’m a cis woman working in stem who has a heckton of trans friends such that it’s probably more accurate to describe my gender as cis+ because I had a big identity crisis thing when it clicked to me that you’re not stuck with your assigned gender at birth. Inexplicably, I seem to be pretty attached to my assigned gender, and the rare instances I have been misgendered causes me deep distress.
Part of this gender evaluation was that in the abstract, I have wished for more masculine traits. When weightlifting, I am envious of how quickly most men pack on muscle compared to me. In my career, I often find myself wishing I was a man, and then feeling a sinking discomfort because I don’t actually want to be a man, I just wish my field wasn’t so misogynistic. I’m about as sure as one can be in one’s gender. And because of that, when I was given the option of trying T, my internal reaction certainly was one of horror.
I mean… Recoiling in horror sounds a little bit like Woman Bad tm had something to do with it.
Being gender curious (or having Gender Imposter Syndrome) is a sign you’re not entirely 100% SuperCis, but people’s emotional reactions be complicated yo
Edit: As others said, there’s also the “take unverifiable drugs from someone (friend or not) in a bar setting”. And the “the post uses hyperbole for effect because memes”.
Complicated indeed…
Well yeah fair enough. I posted this because I read it as hyperbole but I could be wrong. I just felt like this kind of represented the idea that the act of questioning your identity isn’t an indicator of your “actual” identity. It just shows that you’re open to understanding yourself better.
If I were better with words I could explain my thought process better but the best I can do is communicate in memes.
It’s possible, but cis men who are totally comfortable may have never even considered it what so ever. So the recoiling can also be from the very prospect of questioning something that they’ve never had an inkling to question. Introspection on a deep existential level is a little scary, after all, so tapping a new vein regardless of what comes out can be off-putting.
True. I’m not trans, I feel ambivalent about my gender but I certainly don’t think I’d recoil in horror. Probably just say no thanks. I don’t take anything that isn’t prescribed for me or won’t actively interfere with the cocktail of meds I need to take for a chronic illness.
I’m a pretty laid-back person, but I’d likely recoil. It’s the idea of someone threatening me with a pill at a pub that might be kinda triggering. Nearly any other reasonable approach in any other situation, I’d be willing to have a conversation and consider the options.
No one was threatened though. It was a group of friends and I presume the person with the tablets told them what it was and offered them to try it. For someone who says they’re laid back you used quite an emotive word (threatened) to misconstrue the described situation.
You take that back! I’m the most laid back person ever!
But yup, you’re probably right. A) I definitely chose the wrong word with “threatened” and should have been more deliberate in my choice with something like “tried to prove a point to me by offering me prescription drugs” and B) For the life of me, I don’t remember typing “I’m a pretty laid-back person,” I meant to say “I’m often told I’m a pretty laid-back person” but must have slipped my mind while I was getting dressed to go to the park. (Joke’s on you, VaultBoyNewVegas, I was Pooh Bearing it when I wrote my comment!)
Anyway, short reply long: I read your comment and was like, “what’s this person talking about? I know I’m not laid back.” You’re right and I mistyped. I’m often told I’m a pretty laid back person, but I don’t agree with it one bit. I’ve got too many suicide attempts in my past and too many mind-altering prescriptions for me to label myself as “laid-back.” Sorry for the confusion and semi-sorry for making you read this long-ass comment, if you made it this far.
Written like a true
Mad respect.
I think you’re reading into it a bit much. If you offered your mates an antidepressant in the pub (that they didn’t need) there’s a good chance they would react the same way right? There’s nothing wrong with antidepressants but taking strong medication when you don’t need it won’t do you any good.
To me, it sounds plausible in a way that’s more than just “woman” bad.
Using myself as illustration, I’m a cis woman working in stem who has a heckton of trans friends such that it’s probably more accurate to describe my gender as cis+ because I had a big identity crisis thing when it clicked to me that you’re not stuck with your assigned gender at birth. Inexplicably, I seem to be pretty attached to my assigned gender, and the rare instances I have been misgendered causes me deep distress.
Part of this gender evaluation was that in the abstract, I have wished for more masculine traits. When weightlifting, I am envious of how quickly most men pack on muscle compared to me. In my career, I often find myself wishing I was a man, and then feeling a sinking discomfort because I don’t actually want to be a man, I just wish my field wasn’t so misogynistic. I’m about as sure as one can be in one’s gender. And because of that, when I was given the option of trying T, my internal reaction certainly was one of horror.
I agree though, it certainly is complicated.
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