It’s gone from blocking all negotiations with Russia while saying “Ukraine can achieve a military victory” to “sanctions will overthrow Russia” to “sanctions on Russia aren’t working” to “Ukraine can’t militarily win” to now acknowledging that this can only end via negotiations.
Well, by “quick” I meant the last two stages happening in western outlets in just the last month.
As the article says, the only difference is that they’re willing to present Russia with their peace deal (“You get none of our land”) while Russia is still inside Ukrainian land, instead of waiting for all Russian troops to be out of Russia before offering it.
This just shuts up Russian propaganda angles about how Ukraines being mean by not inviting Russia to the peace talks.
Literally not a fallacy, your reasoning hinges on Great Man Theory. The two most popular parties (the second being the communist party) both mainly support the war and the assassination of a sitting President would not, in fact, make the country more dove-ish. It’s a cartoon view of the conflict that the war spawned from Putin’s brain and is his personal pet project that he is subjecting the rest of Russia to.
Holy shit I literally just made a comment saying maybe libs would move on from this branded catchphrase and then I scroll down one co.ment and here you are.
Serves me right for thinking libs would ever learn to interact with reality.
Interesting to see western outlets change their narratives this quick.
Well anyway, hope this actually happens and an end to this war is finally negotiated.
What exactly changed here?
It’s gone from blocking all negotiations with Russia while saying “Ukraine can achieve a military victory” to “sanctions will overthrow Russia” to “sanctions on Russia aren’t working” to “Ukraine can’t militarily win” to now acknowledging that this can only end via negotiations.
Well, by “quick” I meant the last two stages happening in western outlets in just the last month.
Very little really?
As the article says, the only difference is that they’re willing to present Russia with their peace deal (“You get none of our land”) while Russia is still inside Ukrainian land, instead of waiting for all Russian troops to be out of Russia before offering it.
This just shuts up Russian propaganda angles about how Ukraines being mean by not inviting Russia to the peace talks.
These comments are cute.
Watch how quick reactions change when you ask, “Which states should the US surrender to prevent the Russians invading?”
The thin veil of your “might-makes-right” argument is sad.
There’s an easy way to end this war: either kill Putin or have Putin resign.
Great man theory and its consequences
Fallacy.
Literally not a fallacy, your reasoning hinges on Great Man Theory. The two most popular parties (the second being the communist party) both mainly support the war and the assassination of a sitting President would not, in fact, make the country more dove-ish. It’s a cartoon view of the conflict that the war spawned from Putin’s brain and is his personal pet project that he is subjecting the rest of Russia to.
Bot.
Not literally but if somebody programmed the Lib-O-Matic 3000 it would be indistinguishable.
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This is magical thinking. “If the enemy were to simply disappear, everything would be fixed.”
You have to engage with the reality of the situation.
Holy shit I literally just made a comment saying maybe libs would move on from this branded catchphrase and then I scroll down one co.ment and here you are.
Serves me right for thinking libs would ever learn to interact with reality.
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He’s incredibly popular, along with the war. If he goes, someone else takes his place.
Did you even read the article?
Like basically nothing has actually changed, Ukraine is still not surrendering any of its land.
Peace can be reached at anytime Russia wants to fuck off and leave Ukraine.