It’s so funny since even in your response, claiming that I’m disingenuous yous till compere a couple of cells to a newborn. In the end you value the well being of a couple of cells over that of a women. By the way since - Jesus was a Jew, he was pro abortion, it’s a fundamental right for women in Judaism.
He was a Jew, Judaism has a much more liberal stance on abortion. But that is more of a joke. Since our discussion kind of runs into nowhere - with you still claiming few cells are more important than a women, and not given any further information on why.
Wikipedia isn’t really a source. It seems you cannot back up your claim.
All human life is equally valuable. Whether they be young, old, black, white, male, female, etc. There’s not really much more I have to say on this specific topic. We can beat around the bush all day on terminology, etc. But a life is a life, and we shouldn’t have the authority to take it. I cannot speak to Atheism, but I have seen Atheists talk about valuing life as well and finding killing wrong without needing a religion. So I don’t see how when I say killing human life is wrong, whether it be a foetus or a fully grown trans person, you call me a “fundamentalist”, as if believing in the fundamentals of Christianity is a bad thing (although you don’t seem to mean it in that way)
I’m still intrigued with where you’re going with the Jesus being pro abortion issue. It was a pretty wild claim to make.
Wikipedia isn’t really a source. It seems you cannot back up your claim.
Sure only bible is a good source. Just a tip, Wikipedia has sources on most claims you can check yourself, which makes it rather useful.
All human life is equally valuable.
We already established that you don’t give life absolute value, since you would save mothers life through abortion if it was in danger.
But a life is a life
We already been there - you are ok with abortion before implantation so you make actually have a treshold where you start consider a few cells life or human how ever you want to name it.
So I don’t see how when I say killing human life is wrong, whether it be a foetus or a fully grown trans person, you call me a “fundamentalist”, as if believing in the fundamentals of Christianity is a bad thing (although you don’t seem to mean it in that way
Already explained that point.
I’m still intrigued with where you’re going with the Jesus being pro abortion issue. It was a pretty wild claim to make.
Not as wild as a few cell being as valuable as a whole ass developed human. And also I absolutely believe that Jesus would be pro abortion - but that’s anyone’s guess.
It’s different since you claim that a couple of cells around implantation are the same as a born child. Faith not even once.
I didn’t say it was the same. Stop being disingenuous. They are different in the same way a newborn and an adult are different.
It’s so funny since even in your response, claiming that I’m disingenuous yous till compere a couple of cells to a newborn. In the end you value the well being of a couple of cells over that of a women. By the way since - Jesus was a Jew, he was pro abortion, it’s a fundamental right for women in Judaism.
Jesus was pro abortion? 🤣 That’s a new take! And you’re calling me disingenuous
He was a Jew, Judaism has a much more liberal stance on abortion. But that is more of a joke. Since our discussion kind of runs into nowhere - with you still claiming few cells are more important than a women, and not given any further information on why.
Source for Judaism having a much more liberal stance on Abortion?
I didn’t say they are more important. They have equal importance. A woman’s choice to an abortion isn’t worth more than that life.
Wikipedia? Like that’s a simple question just a google search away.
Apologies that’s, correct. But sure, being equal to a few cells is much better, not demeaning for women at all besides being rather silly.
Wikipedia isn’t really a source. It seems you cannot back up your claim.
All human life is equally valuable. Whether they be young, old, black, white, male, female, etc. There’s not really much more I have to say on this specific topic. We can beat around the bush all day on terminology, etc. But a life is a life, and we shouldn’t have the authority to take it. I cannot speak to Atheism, but I have seen Atheists talk about valuing life as well and finding killing wrong without needing a religion. So I don’t see how when I say killing human life is wrong, whether it be a foetus or a fully grown trans person, you call me a “fundamentalist”, as if believing in the fundamentals of Christianity is a bad thing (although you don’t seem to mean it in that way)
I’m still intrigued with where you’re going with the Jesus being pro abortion issue. It was a pretty wild claim to make.
Sure only bible is a good source. Just a tip, Wikipedia has sources on most claims you can check yourself, which makes it rather useful.
We already established that you don’t give life absolute value, since you would save mothers life through abortion if it was in danger.
We already been there - you are ok with abortion before implantation so you make actually have a treshold where you start consider a few cells life or human how ever you want to name it.
Already explained that point.
Not as wild as a few cell being as valuable as a whole ass developed human. And also I absolutely believe that Jesus would be pro abortion - but that’s anyone’s guess.