I totally get that fighting within the context of the current system is immensely frustrating to many, especially since even unambiguous victories still take years to come to fruition. But there is a reason that people who aren’t right-wing chuds or tankies aren’t ready to go to the streets with their guns yet, and that’s because civil wars are really fucking bad. Best case scenario they end up with several years of active, infrastructure-destroying war in which no government services are reliable, no protections to the weak and downtrodden are afforded, and have a decades-long insurgency that has to be crushed bit by bit, usually with great cost to civil rights.
Protests, petitions, even riots, these are all things that are important and useful, and that we’ve engaged in many, many times the past few years. But you don’t bring out the bayonets until you have to, because once they come out, the death toll will reach into the millions.
We typically have a better understanding of consequences than the right does, so we don’t take discussions of “civil war” as lightly.
No, no, you see, it’s actually in the best interests of the downtrodden to spend generations living through a warzone.
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Gee, you’re right. Being “comfortable enough with the status quo” is CLEARLY a leftist trademark. How insightful!
I totally get that fighting within the context of the current system is immensely frustrating to many, especially since even unambiguous victories still take years to come to fruition. But there is a reason that people who aren’t right-wing chuds or tankies aren’t ready to go to the streets with their guns yet, and that’s because civil wars are really fucking bad. Best case scenario they end up with several years of active, infrastructure-destroying war in which no government services are reliable, no protections to the weak and downtrodden are afforded, and have a decades-long insurgency that has to be crushed bit by bit, usually with great cost to civil rights.
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Domestically? Worked within the system to marginalize and reduce their influence.
Protests, petitions, even riots, these are all things that are important and useful, and that we’ve engaged in many, many times the past few years. But you don’t bring out the bayonets until you have to, because once they come out, the death toll will reach into the millions.
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Do you… do you think there haven’t been violent, physical clashes between antifascists and fascists recently?
… are you taking the piss
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“I only saw a fistfight once at a Pride parade I was in, therefore, antifascist violence doesn’t happen in the US.”
Yeah, that’s about the level of discourse I expected considering your previous statements. We’re done here.