• CaractacusPotts@lemmy.caOP
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    9 months ago

    publicly shaming Israelis and Jews

    This is about Zionism. It’s not about Jews. If you make it about Jews you are falling for the Zionist tactic of equating the two. Do better

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      9 months ago

      Really I just meant the international community of Jewish people. Many of them have strong opinions about matters related to Israel.

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          I understand your frustration at what I am saying, but I believe you have more influence over the Israeli people than I do as a non-jew. Am I wrong? I just imagine that Israeli jews would take more seriously and be more introspective after receiving critical comments from a fellow Jewish person, who presumably is more in tune with the worries and historical context of the Jewish community than a non Jewish person is.

          My opinion is more easily decried as antisemitic or ignorant and waved away. Yours is not.

          When Christians do horrible things in the name of god, don’t you think being called out by other Christians is going to carry some more weight?

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              Unfortunately, there’s no commonly accepted distinction between Jews who practice Judaism, Zionists, and ethnic Jews, At least not that I’m aware of. I do recognize that there is a difference, And if I were you, I would be pointing out the difference also.

              I’m sorry, man.It sounds like this is rough for you to be tied to these people by the Jewish label. I hope sometime in this century. All this b******* gets sorted out For everyone’s sake.

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                The difference between Jews and Zionists is the same as between Christians and Christo-Fascists.

                Believers vs. Believers who believe they need to be in control because God picked them and all others are lesser.

                Folks are welcome to believe what they want to believe, it’s when they want to use that belief to restrict other people that it’s a problem.

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                  I said commonly accepted. I’m sorry, but those distinctions are lost on the general public.And what we need is the general public to put pressure on politicians. But sure, whatever, Let’s get pissy and fight amongst ourselves. I’m sure that will help.

                  And don’t compare me to that just asking questions Tucker Carlson, bullshit. I don’t care where you live. I don’t think it’s a big ask for someone to stand up and say killing civilians is a bad thing.