I spent 3 years in an army that relied on conscription. I do get it, I think.
I’m fine with a conscientious objector option; this was an option when I joined up and some took it.
I think there’s a huge gulf between being “forced” to join the army (navy/airforce) of a democratic state’s which serves a purpose a of defending the country against attacks vs being forced to join a force which attacks another country or people. I didn’t make the distinction clear so I’m glad you’re calling me out on it. For clarity, then: I’m talking about conscription into a territorial defense force, not an expeditionary aggressor force.
Russia is defending themself from the nazi, israel is defending themself from hamas, france is talking about sending troops to ukraine to defend europe. It’s always the same story. An actual defense conscription would teach people how to throw boiling oil out of their windows, doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen or the goal.
If you have slaves working in a library that’s still slavery.
If being told you have certain obligations you must adhere to is “slavery” then, sure, it’s slavery.
You’re also expected to do your homework, tidy up your room, keep under the speed limit, not throw litter.
The world is full of demands on us. Some times the mature thing is just to say “sure, I’ll do my bit”.
I’m not sure you understand what mandatory military service is. You are not expected to do it, if you don’t you get punished and go to jail.
Are you suggesting we jail kids that don’t do their homeworks?
Do you understand that Russia has conscription and it’s forcing people to go to the front? The same thing is happening in Israel
I spent 3 years in an army that relied on conscription. I do get it, I think.
I’m fine with a conscientious objector option; this was an option when I joined up and some took it.
I think there’s a huge gulf between being “forced” to join the army (navy/airforce) of a democratic state’s which serves a purpose a of defending the country against attacks vs being forced to join a force which attacks another country or people. I didn’t make the distinction clear so I’m glad you’re calling me out on it. For clarity, then: I’m talking about conscription into a territorial defense force, not an expeditionary aggressor force.
Russia is defending themself from the nazi, israel is defending themself from hamas, france is talking about sending troops to ukraine to defend europe. It’s always the same story. An actual defense conscription would teach people how to throw boiling oil out of their windows, doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen or the goal.