Is lemmy just going to become reddit 2.0? - sh.itjust.works
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The more I use lemmy, the more it begins to just feel like all the same problems reddit had. It has the same problems with major communities having far left moderation standards that only apply to the right, the same hive mind users that just spam the same tired out leftist talking points over and over while refusing anything close to an actual discussion. The only upsides are that downvotes aren’t used to punish you site wide, and the handful of non-leftist instances that exist, though they always end up defederated by all the major instances, effectively making them poor spaces for general discussion. So what are your thoughts? Is this just the “more like under new management” from megamind? Is there hope for it to become a decent platform for everyone, not just the left?

The more I use lemmy, the more it begins to just feel like all the same problems reddit had. It has the same problems with major communities having far left moderation standards that only apply to the right, the same hive mind users that just spam the same tired out leftist talking points over and over while refusing anything close to an actual discussion.

The only upsides are that downvotes aren’t used to punish you site wide, and the handful of non-leftist instances that exist, though they always end up defederated by all the major instances, effectively making them poor spaces for general discussion.

So what are your thoughts? Is this just the “more like under new management” from megamind? Is there hope for it to become a decent platform for everyone, not just the left?

Edit: yeah, it’s just as bad. Fuck the retarded admins and fuck the left

  • MomoTimeToDieOPEnglish
    38·
    1 year ago

    I’m perfectly fine with individual communities enforcing their own moderation policies, and individual users taking advantage of the plenty strong blocking tools at their disposal. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if people are already working on the equivalent of chain block from Twitter for lemmy already.

    But at the level of federation, it represents basic fucking functionality of the site, and it should only be leveraged as a tool against things lot bot farms or the like. Why should the users who cry for moderation the moment a single thing they don’t like shows up need to run the ship? We should go back to the days of just telling them to not browse content they don’t want to browse, and to grow the fuck up.

    • BarbarianEnglish
      112·
      1 year ago

      If a jew is considering joining, and the first thing they see is a holocaust denial post on All + New, they won’t join.

      Similarly, if a trans user is considering joining and they see a post calling for their death, they won’t join.

      Eventually, this whittles down the users over the very long term to only those users that are ok with that. This isn’t about “a single thing they don’t like”. It’s acceptance of hate speech. I hope you can understand the difference. I myself am half Jewish, and if I felt like I was surrounded by anti-semites, I’d just pick up and leave.

      Again, I do hope you can understand the difference between an unpopular opinion and hate speech.

      • MomoTimeToDieOPEnglish
        57·
        1 year ago

        Again, I do hope you can understand the difference between an unpopular opinion and hate speech

        Yes. That said, I don’t believe the mindset of just avoiding entire platforms because of a few bad posts is a good one, and don’t do it myself.