The first time I came across the usage of this phrase was in the movie Hellraiser, and I had no idea this was a common saying. Clearly though, there must be a double meaning there in the movie that I couldn’t fully grasp without knowing the more colloquial meaning.
The description on Wikipedia is unfortunately not enough for me, I would like to see examples. And it’s very hard to find those because Google gives me mostly links to religious websites.
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Well, if you’re Dean Pelton, you’ll use it inappropriately while being overly impressed by early VR, and confusing Jesus with Alexander the Great.
Stop saying Jesus wept!
It’s often used opposite many of these examples to make fun of someone overreacting to a perceived terrible event - things we would call ‘first world problems.’ Similar to when people rub fingers together as the world’s smallest violin playing just for you. Whole foods was out of organic dog food and i had to drive 6 miles to the specialty dog food store. Their parking spaces are too small for my big ass vehicle, so i double parked and got a ticket. And Jesus wept.
‘Jesus wept’ is the shortest verse in the bible, so it’s sort of used to invoke supernatural protection (I say sort of as it’s really just an exclaimation nowadays, even by those who aren’t religious).
It’s mostly just used when you witness the result of something going badly.
This is the only context that makes sense to me. We had to say bible verses to get our mail at church camp. That was a classic one to use.
Well, there isn’t a single usage that’s exclusive.
It’s a general “oath”, akin to any of the less socially acceptable curse words, just not as severe.
You’d use it any time you might be frustrated, angry, or even disappointed. It can freely replace heavier oaths like “fuck me”, “fuck my luck”, “dammit all to hell”, or the ultimate expression of extreme emotion, “mother fucker” (which is distinct in emphasis from motherfucker, believe it or not).
I have seen and heard it used in the older sense, where it represents an expression of sorrow or regret as well, though that is much less common now.
It’s my understanding that when it first became used outside of the biblical origin ( John 11:35, when Jesus went and found Lazarus dead in his tomb and cried with those mourning Lazarus), it was used more as a thing where the person would be saying that Jesus would weep with the people undergoing whatever ill event life had thrown at them.
In that sense, it would be akin to saying “alas”, or “woe is me”.
But, as things often do, it has become more of a complaint against the bad things in life rather than a commiseration with those facing bad things.
It’s actually one of the very few bible verses that sticks in my memory, despite some of the mental gymnastics used to explain away the humanity of the story exemplified in the verse. But that’s a major tangent.
Thanks, this is very exhaustive, just what I needed!
I have never before heard of curse words being called “oaths”. They are typically also referred to as “swear” words or “swears” at least in the US. Though I never understood why curse and swear are synonyms in this specific usage. Is oath a mistranslation or is that a common regional synonym somewhere?
No, oath is just a tad archaic, but it’s a standard usage, not slang or dialect.
Iirc, that usage stems from the same as “swear” does, where the use of a “curse” word is an expression of emphasis or conviction, like saying “I swear to god, I’m going to kick this chicken into orbit if it pecks my foot again.”
Mind you, I haven’t gone looking for any rigorous history of that because it’s bloody difficult to search for on the internet. I’m basing that off of decades old time in a college with instructors willing to chat about their subject matter casually. It could have been the pet theory of the professor in question rather than an established fact.
It’s something you would say when everything seems to be going wrong at once. Honestly I don’t think it’s a super common saying. I’ve only really ever seen it used in books and movies.
Mostly the narrator when the subject receives a kick to the gonads.
I’d say that that was normally used as someone witnesses or realises the extent of damage or incompetence or misbehaviour or similar.
So, if you came home to find that the dog had ripped the stuffing out of your sofa and spread it everywhere and had broken three plant pots and a window and knocked the bookcase over.
Or, your brother tells you that he had borrowed your car and had a crash and had written off someone else’s car and he wasn’t insured and had been arrested and had been drinking.
Oddly specific
